• Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    I think America should be brought to collapse with crippling sanctions and then your country disarmed and balkanized so you can’t do anymore damage to the rest of us. Every living leader should go through Nuremberg style trials.

    Should we go by per capita? Or count the emissions produced by China in the production of American goods against you, lol? You offloaded your manufacturing to China and then blame them for making your shit? Get serious, please.

    • stickly@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      That’s a fine position to have if you want to hold it. But that still dodges my actual question: what does any of that, in a real material way, have to do with putting a blue ballot in a box to prevent the mass tragedy of millions of climate deaths?

      The onus is on you:

      Prove to me that allowing the red fascists to be elected will lead to a better material outcome worth those millions of lives

      You aren’t doing that, you’re just throwing a fit about reformism and giggling at the schadenfreude of policies like ICE and tariffs hurting Americans; ignoring the real and permanent damage done to millions across the globe.

      Your position is childish and unconsidered. If you think it’s imperative that the USA collapse then why aren’t you banging the drum calling for foreign military intervention to dismantle it? Why would Democrats being in power prevent that solution? People are dying while you sit on the sideline and smirk, you’re no better than your imagined “blue maga”.


      WRT China emissions: per capita the USA emissions were shrinking faster than China’s per capita emissions were growing. So yeah I guess we can talk about that if you want to be wrong?

      Also, you don’t need to hallucinate offshored USA emissions, consumption based emissions are tracked for us

      Look up some facts before you imagine more gotchas that doesn’t exist