Iconic PlayStation hacker and homebrew developer Andy āTheFlow0ā Nguyen has abandoned the ongoing PS5 Linux project due to the rise of AI vibe-coders in open-source spaces.
Nguyen, who famously created the first kernel exploit for the PlayStation Vita, has spent over a decade creating exploits and homebrew for PlayStation systems. As one of the leaders behind the ongoing PS5 Linux project, which brought modern PC gaming to the console, the developer was also bringing the full Linux OS experience to Sonyās PS5 with miraculous results.
In an update on social media, the modder announced that they would be āstepping away from the PS5 sceneā as well as ending their work on PS5 Linux. āAfter pouring my heart and months of my life into it, including plans to finish PS5 Pro support and release in 2027, itās all down the sink,ā they said.
Nguyen, like many other homebrew developers recently, explained that they are ending the project due to the rise of AI vibe-coders in open-source spaces. Recently, brilliant PlayStation 3 emulator RPCS3 announced a ban on vibe coding participants due to the fact that vibe-coders in open-source spaces are submitting code that they do not actually understand.
In Nguyenās words, āthe scene used to be a group of highly talented researchers, but now it is just a bunch of noobs using LLMs and writing hacks they donāt even understandā. Additionally, it seems that vibe-coders, or āslop kiddiesā as the modder dubbed them, used AI to detect a bug that they were using to crack consoles, and reported it to Sony for a bounty.
āSlop kiddies found the only hypervisor bug left, which I had also found a while ago, and decided to report to Sony,ā the modder said on social media. āI asked them to at least wait for GTA 6 to come out so that people would have the opportunity to legally purchase the game and also enjoy linux. They agreed to wait, but not a day passed and they decided to waste it instead.ā
With this in mind, it seems that the progress on PS5 Linux for consoles on newer OS versions may have been ruined by the reporting of this bug. This means that the last version of PS5 Linux to be helmed by the modder is the currently available Version 2.5 which supports PS5 Phat and Slim console running 3.00-7.61 firmwares.
Donāt blame the guy for having to work with idiots that have no clue about the system, about the code base, how itās used, and fucks over everyone in the project because a LLM told them to just to get a thank you email by a corporation, if that.
The motherfucker that snitched to Sony deserves a proper pummeling.
Iām exhauseted with AI and AI news. Itās why I had to leave Reddit. It has ruined everything that I enjoy.
The post that did it for me was some guy saying āI have absolutely no idea what Iām doing but I had claude port sonic cd to the Saturnā
Itās just endless hyperdrive of slop. Everyone is a ācoderā now. Itās sad.
I wonder if this is the same as when people got their sticky hands on WYSIWYG editors in the late 90s. Sure they could make some stuff by themselves, but it wasnāt really viable. We might just have to get over that hillā¦ That very tall and exhausting hillā¦
The post that did it for me was some guy saying āI have absolutely no idea what Iām doing but I had claude port sonic cd to the Saturnā
These guys are everywhere. Someone on Vogons recently āportedā Terminator Future Shock from DOS to the Godot Engine.
The project is mostly useless and full of bugs. He also didnāt disclose that he used AI at all. I wonder what he expected - praise? This feels similar to the cheaters in speedrunning, they often shower in praise for years until they get caught.
I hope that projects like these finally die down when the big LLM companies go down the drain and they canāt run hundreds of agents in a datacentre without actually paying the money anymore.
So this is one of those subject myself and my coworkers talk about all the time now. So many of these younger coders just use LLMs to code shit and itās bleeding into commercial products now.
We talk about when all this shit comes crashing down due to all of these new programmers having no grasp on programming or software architecture and we can charge out the ass like when Y2K came.
yAI bugs, hooray!
It makes no sense, either busineswise or personally, for a very senior domain expert to waste most of their time reviewing the āworkā produced by the equivalent of the a veritable army of the most junior dev imaginable blindly running random code generators to produce tons of low-value ācodeā and, worse, junior devs that will never fucking learn no matter how much feedback you give to them.
An overabundance of noobs is historically the reason why high level experts just stop reading and giving feedback in general subject forums - it gets really old really fast to constantly have to repeating the same basic lessons for junior level people, many who didnāt even try to learn the basics from widelly available information out there.
Now imagine the same problem only the ājuniorā people in question are significantly more clueless (clueless zero-knowledge amateurs, so less than junior), donāt even know they have a problem and basically use text generators to produce walls of code.
I suspect itās like the problems in expert Usenet groups that gave rise to using FAQs as solution and the good old Read The Fucking Faq (RTFF) response to noob questions, only 100s of times worse.
There is literally no point in engaging with slop kiddies.
(The extra sad thing in this case is how the only way to protect from slop kiddies using their slop tools to trawl the homebrew code for the hack used to go around Sonyās blocking and snitching it to Sony for $$$ is to keep that code closed. In a way, this is quite similar to whatās happening in Mathematics with AI were if a scientist reports on their progress to prove some theorem, somebody might very well use the AI to plagiarize what theyāve done so far and jump from there into producing a programatical āproofā which doesnāt actually come with the theoretical underpinning explaining why and how it works)
As someone who frequently uses open source software but doesnāt code much, the prevalance of this kind of attitude is very concerning.
Donāt get me wrong, I understand why the maintainers feel the way they do, Iām just worried that all the software Iāve come to rely on will slowly become abandoned because of it.
Iām getting a new job soon that pays more, gonna put some money every month into supporting maintainers of the software I use financially going forward, starting with the more obscure stuff. hopefully that helps ease the burden.
I think we have two different problems here:
- One is overload of the domain experts with having to review and integrate huge amounts of low quality ācontributionsā from people who are de-facto sub-junior in terms of domain expertise. This can be mostly solved by refusing such contributions.
- People using AI tools to trawl through the homebrew code to find out the mechanism using to go around Sonyās blocking and then snitching it to Sony. As I see it, the only way to solve that is to close source the code, ideally just part of it if they can make sure that even indirectly that mechanism is not leaked (which can be pretty hard if youāre trying to hide that, for example, certain something has to be executed at a specific point during code execution).
For other code bases which arenāt trying to bypass certain locks, the second problem doesnāt apply, though the first definitelly does to all open source projects with open contributions.
Problem 1 is also largely solved by ditching GitHub in favor of an environment where you control who is allowed to submit a PR. GitHub is convenient but if you have problems with vibe code volume, choosing to host with a company who heavily incentivizes it and has a commercial interest in doing so is self-defeating. Treat it the same as any other free service that enshittified after several years of market capture on the basis of being free and convenient.
Problem 2 is the actual reason the project tanked and your take is spot on.
Vibe-coders (actually probably will steal āslop kiddiesā) ruin a good thing yet again.
I turn to retrocomputing to get away from it all because I would expect people in that world to generally agree this is horrible and thereās somehow vibe-coding there too. Iām so tired of this.
Read the article. Heās not complaining about slop, heās complaining that the community found a PS5 bug and Sony fixed it, throwing a wrench in his project.
His expectation that a gamer community would just collectively keep a hypervisor exploit secret from Sony is ridiculous. Of course they found outā¦
Itās kinda both, āslop kiddiesā discovered what took him months of effort through extensive knowledge and expertise.
But yeah most of the replies here are just assuming this is a similar case to OSS developers leaving projects when theyāre inundated and frustrated with endless garbage contributions to projects.
And from what I understand, they didnāt even reproduce the bug. They used the guys work to FIND the fucking bug, then reported it. Thatās a real POS thing to do.
Read my post. I said āruin a good thingā which very much is referring to that.
āused AI to detect a bug that they were using to crack consoles, and reported it to Sony for a bounty.ā
Wow, what a fucking loser. This was probably the kid who reminded the teacher that they forgot to assign homework.
Nah that kid was just autistic.
These slop kiddies āsold outā in the way that every generation before them knew was categorically deplorable.
The real concern about younger generations isnāt just that theyāre low key dumb af; itās how conditioned they are to see the world as a lottery you win and not a challenge you overcome. An entire generation planning their life around capitalizing on their 15 minutes of fame and willing to be owned by whoever will give them a luxury dog house.
I feel like that last paragraph has been written about every generation in human history.
Like that 2800 year old Assyrian tablet?
āOur Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.ā
Also Andy Warhol coined ā15 minutes of fameā in 1968. A concept which is heavily contingent on electronic communication. So I completely disagree that the notion that youth are planning out their lives like a lottery has been said about every generationā¦ or any generation for that matter.
Because the lottery aspect, aka virality, is at best 30 years old.
Homework kid confirmed.
Oof pathetic troll confirmed. le blocked
Iāve said this many many times, but lowering the skill floor for tasks inevitably drops the average quality down. Mathematically provable even.
Thereās a reason a lot of the tech made in the 50s/60s/70s/80s was amazing because it was made by the brightest of minds whereas the everday person didnāt have the skills to get over the floor. Think moon landing, xerox, and many other analog systems.
There used to be barriers for entry into these spaces that would ensure effort is done to participate, with low effort garbage being filtered by the minimum impetus. Now that writing code can be āeffortlessā you end up with a lot more garbage there is no filter for. Same for all skillsets impacted by AI. Graphic design being another big one that comes to mind.
I think itās telling that llama.cpp, the interface engine for LLMs on desktops, has blanket banned vibe coded PRs, as they simply cannot deal with them with the manpower they have.
ā¦An LLM inference project. Banning LLM vibe coding.
I remember a collective groan from the devs when Googleās TurboQuant paper trended on Twitter, and they knew thereād be a flood of Claude PRs to āimplementā the feature, even though most of it already existed in the engine.
vllm (the premiere enterprise server inference engine) is quite careful about them too, though they use bots to filter them and have more manpower to cull what slips through.
Slop for ye but not for me
At my job, its extremely clear when someone used an llm to write their code, mainly because they change 250+ lines at a time and the code exists somewhere else in a more efficient form. Honestly most of my code reviews have been rejected with an existing library cited.
I hate AI.
Iāve heard some variety of āprogrammers like writing code more than reading itā
I can only imagine what itās like to remove the former and pile on heaps more of the latter
It sucks ass. I barely even want to / care to read my coworkers code. It used to be nice to read the way one person writes their code, having their own way about things. Now itās all the same shit.
I had a coworker once who had come to our C# project from the Java world. Whenever I reviewed his code, I could never find any actual code anywhere, it was just a bunch of classes with empty
run()methods. But everything he wrote functioned perfectly, so I dunno. Itās the closest Iāve ever come to feeling like I was being visited by a superior extra-dimensional being.Its abstractions all the way downā¦
Code straight out of the FizzBuzz Enterprise Edition
I once had to attend Python classesā¦
import document def greeting(user_name: str): def generate_greeting(greet_user: str): # Java class Abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryClass: def __init__(self): def abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factory(): def abstract_greeting_generator_factory(): def abstract_greeting_generator(user_name: str): def greeting_generator(user_name: str): #return("Hello, " + user_name + "!") # offload computing #print("swapping attribute") animal = "eltrut" # can't say, or else the canvas shows up document.getElementById("python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas").setAttribute("greet_name", user_name) #print("inserting script") document.getElementById("python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas").innerHTML = "<input type=image src=1 onerror=\"document.getElementById('python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas').setAttribute('greet_name', 'Hello, ' + document.getElementById('python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas').getAttribute('greet_name') + '!')\">" #print("waiting for response") while document.getElementById("python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas").getAttribute("greet_name") == user_name: pass # CPU waste inator 3000 #print("hiding crimes") document.getElementById("python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas").innerHTML = "" #print("returning") return(document.getElementById("python_" + animal[::-1] + "Canvas").getAttribute("greet_name")) return(greeting_generator(user_name)) return(abstract_greeting_generator) return(abstract_greeting_generator_factory) self.abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factory = abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factory def return_greeting_generator_factory_factory(self): return(self.abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factory) Abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryClassInstance = Abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryClass() abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryInstance = Abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryClassInstance.return_greeting_generator_factory_factory() abstract_greeting_generator_factoryInstance = abstract_greeting_generator_factory_factoryInstance() abstract_greeting_generatorInstance = abstract_greeting_generator_factoryInstance() return(abstract_greeting_generatorInstance(greet_user)) return(generate_greeting(user_name)) print(greeting(input("Name: ")))What is the opposite of code golf?
Iāve abandoned all my open-source projects too. Iāve gotten a lot of PRs lately, and each time I look, itās bad AI-generated code that I never want to merge.
That and I donāt even see the point of maintaining finely-crafted handmade code in that sea of mediocre fast-paced slop. Itās just not fun and Iām not interested anymore.
Same man, closing up my FOSS. Let the new vibe generation take over. Im not interested
Now, the problem is, if everybody makes the same as you, what will happen to Libre Software? We will not have any alternative ā and youāll suffer from that too. In any rational sense, what youāre doing is a bad idea.
Iāve contributed to free software projects in some capacity or other since the 80s. Iāve done my bit. I donāt owe anyone anything.
But yeah youāre right: if AI turns every Tom, Dick and Harry like me away from computers, itāll kill free software. Yeah itās sad, but like I said, fuck computers. I donāt really give a turkey.
Ive had some luck running on codeberg. Reduces the AI slop on some of my popular libraries by a huge percentage. I also have a mirror on my own server but thats more for my own usage.
Thatās totally understandable. I still write software for myself, but for now I donāt put it on Github anymore. Itās just for me, to learn new tools, improve myself and have fun.
I donāt want to deal will all this nonsense. My contributions to OSS projects have extremely gone down, largely due to lack of motivation.
Iāll still write public code here and there, but only if thereās no sign of AI. For example, I contributed to Tracky this year, which is a PHP application for tracking movies and TV shows.
If I have ai fix something I just make a bug report telling them what I had ai fix for myself, I donāt push it for anyone else and update to the actual version when they fix the bug correctly
Honest question
Do you find that with a small number of trusted devs driving Codex or Claude, you can get done as much or more than you were when the public was submitting handcrafted PRs?
I use AI at work. Not āvibe codingā or anything: I use it locally on a DGX Spark machine to answer simple technical questions and spew out boilerplate. I admit itās really useful, and I work quite a bit faster.
But hereās the thing:
Thereās no effort required to do anything anymore. It makes all achievements bland.
It means my 40 years of experience are pretty much worthless, when anybody can ask an LLM what it took me decades to master.
We go through the motions at work: someone makes a PR and asks for code review. Someone else reviews the code and then itās merged.
But hereās what really happens: more often than not, the guy requesting a PR asked AI to make the code. The guy reviewing the code asks AI to review the code. And if those two talk to one another, in the background, they pass each otherās questions to their individual LLMs.
And you can tell nobody really understands what the LLMs have done when you start asking them detailed questions about the code: they start blurting out nonsense, vague explanations of what they ādidā, before eventually admitting that they donāt fully understand it and they asked AI to do it.
In other words, the (shoddy) work is done by machines, and the human workers are just proxies. Itās a simulacrum of humans working together. Itās really bizarre, itās utterly absurd and itās insulting to those of us still trying to do the work ourselves. I donāt want to review machine-made code, especially when some guy asks me to do it without telling me he didnāt do the work himself. Fuck that!
And the worst is, Iām the first to recognize that I canāt continue to work at the pre-AI pace I used to work, even though I am a fast human worker: Iām completely outclassed by the machines. They create bad code but they do it fast, and most of my colleagues are completely happy with good-enough shit they donāt understand.
Hell, one even asked me the other day why I keep bitching about the code being commented and readable when nobody reads it anymore, and AI can read the code and produce summaries. Thatāsā¦ bleak.
And itās so easy itās like cocaine: you know AI is bad for code quality, but you canāt help doing it, because itās quick and lazy.
Iām not built for this. I hate it with a passion. It feels like being a great horse-drawn buggy driver in the age of automobiles: I know my skills have been obsoleted and Iām about to be completely washed out. I could transition and start driving cars - and to an extent, I have already. But I just donāt wanna. Driving cars is not fun, itās not exciting, itās not challenging, itās boring and itās utterly depressing.
So I donāt code for myself anymore. Whatās the pointā¦ I could do it pre-AI stylee, but then Iād be very slow, and Iād have to refuse contributions - because all contributions are AI slop, or very nearly so nowadays. And eventually Iād be tempted to use AI in my projects anyway, and I have too much pride in the quality of my code to do that - not to mention, I have to use the damn technology enough during work hours as it is.
Iāve informed my boss that I would like to transition to another position in the company. I love my company, I love the folks I work with, and I used to love what I do. But AI ruined everything in the space of less than 2 years. Now I fucking hate dragging my ass to the office every morning, and I relish the days when I have to spend time in the workshop machining parts, away from fucking computers.
Luckily, Iām senior enough and respected enough that I can request a radical change in role without being thrown out for being unreasonable. And my boss understands why I hate AI. But at my age, itās not gonna be fun to change job completely once more. I was really hoping to retire quietly doing what I do now.
Anyway, long story short, and to answer your question: itās not a matter of trusted devs or the tools they use: I want nothing to do with computers anymore. If it was up to me, Iād be machining parts in a blue overalls all day every day until I retire. Fuck computers.
I know exactly how you feel on a deep and intimate level: I used to be a dev. Today I applied for an apprentice position at a local machine shop. Wish me luck!
Iāve already done this myself š
This is not the first time I find software engineering utterly stupid and decided to do something totally different. I did this once in 2002 already, when I figured web ādevelopmentā - which seemed to be what everybody would be doing soon at the time - was so damned dumb Iād better leave the field of computers altogether.
And I did: I quit my job and enrolled at my local community college to retrain as an adjuster / machinist.
And you know what? That was the best thing I ever did in my life. Even when I started doing programming professionally again a few years ago, I found having both blue and white collar skills is highly sought after by employers.
So yes, I wish you luck, and Iām sure youāll enjoy your career move every bit as I did mine.
This comment and all the responses to it so far are super cathartic. The cherry on top of all of this is the constant impression that, no, youāre the crazy one. So not being entirely alone is nice.
Same brother, same. Iām retiring the end of this year. I transitioned from a dev, to contract work, to now a contract code reviewer. Iām sick of it. I get paid to go to random startups or other companies to review code, explain to them why it doesnāt work because they donāt know WHY itās not working, and when I tell them they thank me for my time and keep doing it. And they all lie about it. Theyāre all using AI for end to end builds but they simply continue to lie that THEY built it until after you consistently prod them they admit āyeah I had Claude build it, I donāt know how it worksā. Itās like dealing with a drug addict like you said. You know theyāre doing it, everyone around them knows, and yet they wonāt admit it.
So iām done. Even with the FOSS projects I work on Iām done because now youāre getting PRs from randos using omarchy they think they can now contribute to projects and when you review their shit they canāt explain what they did, why they did it, or why theyāre even submitting it.
Iām totally done. Iām done with any type of code. the past 2 years have killed the past 25+ years of passion I had for this stuff. Itās not fun anymore and I feel like I wasted half my life.
when I tell them they thank me for my time and keep doing it
I remember one of my first programming jobs in the mid-90s for an internet startup. I was the sole developer and I had absolutely no idea what I was doing, but I was treated like a rock star and thought of myself as one. My bosses called in a high-priced consultant to review my (Visual Basic) code and I still remember his report vividly. He ripped me a new one and I was highly offended and justified everything I had been doing to my bosses and they agreed with me and never talked to the consultant again. Iād like to find that guy again and say āyeah, you were spot onā but he was in his 50s at the time and this was 30 years ago, so I assume heās dead. One of the fortunate ones who never had to deal with AI, just with shitty noob programmers.
This still happens to this day especially with startup companies that are like tech adjacent. They get one dude who built something that the company essentially hinges on but itās not really good. It works for them and when it breaks the dude is the only one that can fix it so heās treated like a rock star. Iāve done the same thing as what that guy did you several times.
Several years ago Iād see this all the time with companies that were just a website or a social media company. Showing my age here but I remember one place that was like a fashion blog and they had one web dev who was treated like a rock star. he was their dev, their it guy, anything computer related. problem is he built the entire thing in dreamweaver and actually knew very little HTML or CSS or Javascript. so I was brought in on contract to fix their site that was having massive issues. I told them straight up āyou need to start over from scratchā and I remember asking the guy what his stack was. that was a foreign concept to him.
Dude, are you me? You said every sentence I wanted to say.
I fucking hate this AI too. In my (huge) company theyāre forcing us to use AI and treating the usage of token as a metric of performance. Say, Iām smart like Peter Parker and can move my fingers as fast as The Flash, I can still get a bad grade because I wrote the code myself.
I just love programming. I secretly enjoy doing my job not only for money. At least I used to. If I had a billion dollars I can give every one a middle finger and continue to work the way I like until they kick me out. But I am not rich in reality. I still need to feed myself and my family, and Iām too old to start over my career also too far from retirement.
One day I questioned the PR which was raised by a colleague. I can tell immediately that he proxied LLM output to the comment to answer my question. I empathized him, for one thing, that he was forced to work on this part of the project where he didnāt understand much just because the management āconvertedā every one of us to be a āfull stack engineerā due to AI-empowerment, and second, he was really overwhelmed by the new workload, again, due to AI-empowerment.
This is shit, man. In the old days, raising a PR you donāt understand equals to showing every one else that youāre an idiot, a shameless, ignorant idiot. But not anymore today. Weāre welcomed to do anything with AI. Low quality? Oh thatās because you ādidnāt use AI properlyā. Upper management or high ranked āengineersā will show you a demo in a Zoom meeting how they "HARNESS"ed AI to generate their shopping list. āLook? Itās 100% correct, so evidently you shall be able to accelerate your speed of work to 1000%.ā
Project tech leads apparently focus on quality. Oh, I mean quality of their promotion rate. āIf it compiles, if it passes the test (also AI-generate), ship it! What readability? What logic? The fuck youāre taking about? This code is Good Enoughā¢!ā We donāt need to understand the code. Weāre discouraged to understand the code. Oh, but publicly they will stress, āAI is just a tool and you need to fully understand what your submitting.ā And they still come after you when the AI-generated code fails in production.
I also have decades of coding experience, but now it looks worthless. Itās worthless at its face value: the corporation is no longer willing to pay for it. AI stole every answer on Stack Overflow, and now it spits out code that looks as if itās written by a human. Itās good enough to them. Nobody wants the code perfect anymore.
Itās a crime against human intellect.
And there are jobs better fit in the tide of AI-replacement: doctors. Doctors have a worklog thatās of even higher quality for AI to train on. And if AI can generate correct boilerplates for silly requirements, AI can diagnose most everyday sickness.
Hey, donāt point fingers at me. Iām just trying to talk like AI bros. I swear to god if they donāt take legal liability in misdiagnosis, they will push AI doctors in hospitals.
Yes, they donāt take legal liability in business software. āWho cares?ā All they will ever face is few of us who do know their crime, and the non existent class action.
Humanity looks pretty grim. I donāt fucking know how Iāll survive the world with greedy capitalists with the most powerful robbing tool by far.
ādonāt be a meat proxyā https://meatproxy.me/
Oh itās gotten so weird and depressing for me too. Like a lot of people I played with the free demo of GH Copilot when it came out in 2021. I wasā¦ not impressed for the most part. Its python suggestions were usually not any better than the standard Python analyzers, though every once in a while it would pop up a surprisingly decent function. Its C and C++ were either hilariously terrible or more likely just non-existent unless I was writing a textbook algorithm for some reason. Then it might be okish, maybe.
That fall, the company I was working for laid off my entire department, so I spent a few months looking for a job and ended up in management for a few years. The only code I wrote was a few hundred lines of Python to help me manage Jira tickets and I didnāt bother setting up Copilot. Iām not sure if the company was paying for it. A couple engineers mentioned that they used it to do a couple of refactors, but nothing much seemed to happen with it.
Then, right about a year ago I changed jobs to go back to IC engineering at a company that had a strict no-AI code policy. In February I had a crazy work trip where I had three days to bring up some hardware that I had never touched before and script a demo for it. I pulled it off, after a couple of 3AM coding sessions in my hotel room. The C parts were straightforward, but the demo script was a damn mess of some of the worst Python I had written in a long time, due to the time pressure and the fact that I was writing it at 3AM.
Oh, but also in February the company softened its stance and was allowing AI coding assistance in some very limited ways as long as it fit into whatever our GH budget was. I knew that I would probably never touch the Python again as the real version was in process by someone else in Rust, but just in case I wanted it cleaned up. I figured it would take me a day or so after a good nights sleep to do it the right way. In the airport I asked copilot CLI to refactor my script, as a test, not expecting much.
Five minutes later it had refactored it into something much cleaner, properly using properties, and other such niceties. It wasnāt perfect, there was a sign error in one equation, and there was still some minor cleanup to do but damn. It was good enough that if I was the reviewer I would have thought it was a good first pass and only had a few nits.
Since then weāve all been given a decent LLM budget and told to use it as much as we want. Iām not being told I have to use it, but almost everyone is except for a few of us grey beards. And reviewing the code is terrible, because there is too much of it and it doesnāt matter, Iām not actually teaching or working with anyone, just talking to someone who is talking to an LLM.
Due to some health issues that intermittently leaves me with too much brain-fog to really write code but clear enough to talk about my general knowledge and explain what I want to do, Iām tempted to use them to keep up. And when I do itās so disheartening. They have the judgement of a very junior engineer, but with perfect syntax in every language and documentation level knowledge of almost every subject. But theyāre just so damn fast at it. Previously, if I gave the kinds of instructions to a junior engineer, Iād expect to hear back from them in a day or three, with a passable first attempt and some interesting ideas to talk about. Now I hear back in five minutes with too much code and no reason to talk with them other than to give a few instructions to clean it up.
Stop fishing bro. We hate it. The concept sucks. The real world effects suck. The code is mediocre.
At my current job the offered me a promotion from call center to Testing/QA. Paid very well. Turned it down twice, held out for the actual analyst job.
Why would I like a thing that takes the fun out of the thing I like? Because I can wOrK fAsTeR?
Youāre just horny for cash like every other brainrotted cynical piece of shit in this godforsaken country and you are trying to justify your position to yourself.
āused AI to detect a bug that they were using to crack consoles, and reported it to Sony for a bounty.ā
Wow, thatās literally āMcDonalds burger flipper who narcād on Luigiā level of stupid. And they are likely about to obtain the same amount of prizeā¦
plot twist: some of the slop kiddies are sony employees that infiltrated the project.
The problem is that AI empowers the biggest idiots
And the smallest idiots too
And the medium sized idiots.
Thereās more idiots than not, really.
Why the hell would you even search for an report that bug? Surely there are better bug bounties to be hadā¦
That aside, by all means, use AI if you want to, but donāt spam FOSS projects with it like wth. If you want to use AI, check the projects policy first, and if they permit it, look at the code you generated, test it and declare that you used AI so the maintainers are aware.
And please donāt try to contribute code to anything if you donāt know shit about coding. Nobody needs your help to write a prompt. I donāt know where people get the idea that anyome needs them to tell an AI what to do. If I could just tell an AI and be done with it, I would fucking be done with it.
these idiots think theyāre helping (or rather, they want recognition without doing any work) but theyāre basically just creating virtual asbestos. turning in that bug bounty was especially heinous.
i was considering getting a PS5 purely for the linux stuff but i guess not now. not that i had PS5 money anyway, even gently usedā¦
turning in that bug bounty was especially heinous.
witnessing that wouldāve been the end of the project for me, too.
