Florida’s crackdown on diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) has swept up a nearly six-decade-old St. Patrick’s Day parade, triggering outrage in Delray
St. Patrick’s Day parade cancled in florida because of anti-inclusivity law (DEI)
I live in a very Italian American part of the country, many of whom are very anti-DEI. But, then I tell them that Columbus Day is just DEI for Italians. I take to much joy from watching the gears turn in their heads as they work it out. Italians Americans where basically the Mexicans of there time, every major immigrant group in America other than WASPS where, to many people forget that.
I’ve got older Italian American relatives who love to tell horror stories about the slurs they were called as kids, then turn around and use slurs against other minorities. We don’t talk so much anymore.
Italy is a modern invention, like 20th century modern. That’s be like telling a Prussian that they’re just German minus a hundred years. Early colonist’s considered themselves British, would you argue that they were actually American?
Yes, but as in 19th century modern. The war of unification (when the Savoy’s conquered Italy and Sicily out of Piemonte) was happening in the 1880s.
I’m honestly puzzled why you care so much about what a region was called when the person lived there, vs what we call it today. There are nuances but nothing to get so worked up about.
I’d much rather point out that it’s not at all clear that he was Genovese at all. And that “Columbus’s House” in Genova is an absolute scam.
TIL my ancestors weren’t Polish, they were Ukrainian. Or maybe they were both or neither, as neither country existed when they emigrated. They spoke Polish but emigrated from Galicia. /s
I can’t remember the exact historic context*, but the joke goes that Old Sol liked to boast that he’d been born in Poland, then became Austrian, then German, and ended up a citizen of the soviet Union, all without ever leaving his hometown.
And people get jobs from relatives and friends and are not the most qualified, so they benefit but don’t want others to get jobs they are qualified for, if in discriminated groups. They didn’t like discrimination when they were new immigrants, but fine to dish it out to others, hypocritical, but the way of usa for sure, sadly and against supposed values.
I live in a very Italian American part of the country, many of whom are very anti-DEI. But, then I tell them that Columbus Day is just DEI for Italians. I take to much joy from watching the gears turn in their heads as they work it out. Italians Americans where basically the Mexicans of there time, every major immigrant group in America other than WASPS where, to many people forget that.
I’ve got older Italian American relatives who love to tell horror stories about the slurs they were called as kids, then turn around and use slurs against other minorities. We don’t talk so much anymore.
Even better, tell them Columbus wasn’t Italian, he was Genoan and he sailed for the Spanish Crown.
Genova is in modern day Italy, so if he really was Genovese then yeah, he was Italian.
Italy is a modern invention, like 20th century modern. That’s be like telling a Prussian that they’re just German minus a hundred years. Early colonist’s considered themselves British, would you argue that they were actually American?
Yes, but as in 19th century modern. The war of unification (when the Savoy’s conquered Italy and Sicily out of Piemonte) was happening in the 1880s.
I’m honestly puzzled why you care so much about what a region was called when the person lived there, vs what we call it today. There are nuances but nothing to get so worked up about.
I’d much rather point out that it’s not at all clear that he was Genovese at all. And that “Columbus’s House” in Genova is an absolute scam.
TIL my ancestors weren’t Polish, they were Ukrainian. Or maybe they were both or neither, as neither country existed when they emigrated. They spoke Polish but emigrated from Galicia. /s
I can’t remember the exact historic context*, but the joke goes that Old Sol liked to boast that he’d been born in Poland, then became Austrian, then German, and ended up a citizen of the soviet Union, all without ever leaving his hometown.
*yes, I’m an ignorant american.
Nononono, there can be only one label and were going to let some random online American decide what it is.
So the people he enslaved and slaughtered were Haitians and Dominicans?
Sure, in modern terms. What’s your point?
And people get jobs from relatives and friends and are not the most qualified, so they benefit but don’t want others to get jobs they are qualified for, if in discriminated groups. They didn’t like discrimination when they were new immigrants, but fine to dish it out to others, hypocritical, but the way of usa for sure, sadly and against supposed values.