How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?
What a way to alienate your entire customer base
Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can’t believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust… I was like bro okay in done.
Looks like I’m stuck with nord and their shitass torrent support lmao
“worked in media at Fox” the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.
It’s all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.
Well thats a fuckin shame.
Good to know. Bye Proton.
Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can’t trust anyone this stupid with privacy.
I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?
If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.
Posteo
Keep a proton for situations where you can actually use the encryption. Most of the time the encryption is as useless as a VPN.
Also keep in mind all it is is pgp with a directory lookup. I think proton made their pgp directory lookup more open in the last few years, so it may not have any real benefits.
PGP or other PKI.
Don’t trust people you’ve never met to give a shit about you
🤦 Can we get this in actual text or maybe a cool link to the actual content for those of us who need it for accessibility & the rest of us who don’t like trying to read pixelated garbage? Screenshots of text are such a scourge. 😭
This wouldn’t have anything to do with US internet restrictions would it? Like how multiple states place age verification on porn sites? Like how more restrictions would pop up in a MAGA admin to keep it “safe”.
That wouldn’t benefit Proton at all now would it? They don’t serve a product that would circumvent those restrictions right? A product they sell?
If you just want to watch porn, free protonvpn is enough.
The privacy vulnerability in a VPN service is the VPN provider. There have always been suspicions that some of these companies are involved with state agencies and you’ve got Proton’s CEO kissing the fascist ring, figure it out.
Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.
I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.
It’s a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.
Same, especially because I can’t get on Pornhub without one anymore!
Definitely no conflict of interest from this chode.
Same
I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.
I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.
Was about to pay for proton. Not now
I’m glad I never did. I looked into proton a few months back and was highly suspicious of their non-profit status. I could never put my finger on why but felt off.
Glad I never fully committed to it.
Non-profit is a tax status not a business plan.
There’s Mullvad.
Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.
My current plan is:
VPN -> Mullvad
Mail -> Tuta
Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)
Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)
Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.
Do you happen to know any alternatives for their email? Some security guy on YouTube was talking about how their email aliasing is better because if you lose a single email/password combo, you’re not subject to any other breaches.
I mean I already use a password manager since I adopted KeePass like 15 years ago and use Bitwarden now, but I still like that concept.
Posteo or tuta or fastmail.
Depends on if anyone you message uses proton. If they do, you can always get their pgp key and save it to thunderbird. If nobody you know uses proton, there is no benefit to their service over the above.
I have heard Tuta is good.
ivpn and Tutanota for email/calendar/contacts. And honestly, if you’re comfortable with self hosting your own stuff, Nextcloud can manage your files, calendar, contacts and all kinds of other stuff.
I wouldn’t trust tuta necessarily…not that they are bad, just that I think their account retention is weaksauce.
Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.
Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.
Fuck. I was procrastinating on buying into their VPN and drive service to de-googlify. Looks like that’s off the menu and I am deleting all my burner accounts now. Fucking bruh.
Mullvad is better and cheaper VPN
Sync, icedrive, filenio, etc are fine storage options
Yeah, it was more convenient to have a “all under one roof” approach with email and stuff too, which is why i wanted to switch… But ain’t gonna touch that dumpster fire for sure.
Getting real fuckin tired of having to always find ‘alternatives’. Can’t yall rich bastards just stop being weird and be content with making good products. Just cause you have money, doesn’t mean you need to have a public opinion on anything, ever
This is what I feel is the core problem of out-of-bounds capitalism today. 50-80 years ago there were fabulously wealthy people as well, but they were taxed out the wazoo and were still fabulously wealthy. And even though every corporation’s goal is, and always has been, to make profit, it feels as if it’s gone from “profit” to “maximum possible profit at ALL costs, including the damnation of life on the planet”.
We have plenty of examples of hypercapitalism destroying us in fiction (cyberpunk etc.) but our current reality is really really close to that hellscape. In some ways it’s actually worse because of the insidiousness and banality of the evil that lords over us daily.
Sorry im not from the US… what is a “wazoo”?
wazoo = anus
It’s written as “up the wazoo” or “out the wazoo.” “Wazoo” in this context means “ass” and the meaning as a whole is “in large amounts.”
Where a kazoo goes.
It’s just a figure of speech to denote “completely”, or “very much”.
Anyone who becomes rich will work to protect that wealth.
Gotta support FOSS alternatives.
Buy your own domain and use a service like mailbox.org which is in Germany.
Also super easy to move to a new email host later when you have your own domain.
Does posteo support “catchall” addresses?
I corrected my comment, I was thinking of mailbox.org which supports custom domains and catchall too.
They didn’t a few yeara when i looked into it, thats why i switched to proton
