• Loss@sh.itjust.works
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    Yes, Dems choosing to be more right wing than the trump 2016 campaign did have an effect. It did cause them to lose core support from minority groups that realized they weren’t going to be supported anymore by the dem party.

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      Yes,

      Then you admit you refused to show solidarity with LGBT folk in the US, because the candidate for protecting LGBT folk in the US showed insufficient solidarity with Palestinians?

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        I’m a trans person myself and voted for Harris. Do not use my people as a rhetorical cudgel against those that voted for accountability. We’ve seen after the election that Democrats have little spine is protecting trans rights. Democrats already voted to support the first anti-LGBT law in 30 years. There is anti-trans legislation in the works that will likely have substantial Democratic support behind it.

        You only use minorities as a tool to wield. When those minority groups stand up and object to being thrown under the bus in the name of political expediency, you just hold up another minority group as another rhetorical shield.

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          Do not use my people as a rhetorical cudgel against those that voted for accountability.

          I didn’t realize “accountability” was “putting a fascist in power to throw us disadvantaged groups in camps”. Rather seems like the opposite of accountability to me, but what do I know? I’m just one of those filthy mixed-race mentally ill useless eaters who’ll get thrown into the meat grinder. The REAL victims here are the people who sat on their asses while fascism came to America, and couldn’t be arsed enough to do so much as take one day out of their busy fucking lives and cast a vote for someone they didn’t like. Protecting minorities just wasn’t important enough. Feeling pure was more important.

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        …Jill stein did show support for Palestinians, what the fuck are you on about? So did de la Cruz. Hell even Dr West did.

        Those were the only candidates showing support for trans people in the 2024 election, so no idea how you got confused.

        Edit: ooh you’re one of the lgb not t guys, aren’t you?

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          …Jill stein did show support for Palestinians, what the fuck are you on about? So did de la Cruz. Hell even Dr West did.

          Okay? None of those candidates had any chance of defending LGBT folk in the US, and LGBT folk in the US overwhelmingly voted for Harris, above and beyond what support they gave the Dems in 2016 and 2020, because they saw the writing on the wall regarding Trump.

          Edit: ooh you’re one of the lgb not t guys, aren’t you?

          Get better material. Trans rights are human rights.

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            None of those candidates had any chance of defending LGBT folk in the US

            getting elected is probably one of the least effective ways to protect marginalized people. i think dr west and de la cruz are doing great work for queer people.

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          And neither of those idiots have a track record of ever having done shit to support their loaded promises.

          You’re just believing shit because it sounds good. They’re both untested, unproven blowhards that don’t have the political clout, or legal knowledge to back up a god damned thing they “promised.”