You tankies are seriously messed up in the brain. It’s quite amazing the amount of patently crazy history rewriting and BS you lot can spew out without flinching.
Hint: saying “you are proof that gulags are necessary” under any circumstances puts you in the same category of despicables as neo-Nazis, and a total waste of oxygen.
I lived in the Soviet Union, and you clearly don’t want to hear what I have to say. It’s pretty clear that the only thing you care to hear is a narrative that supports your biases. You’re very transparent.
The only people I met who lived in the Soviet Union who missed it after its disappearance were military, police, and civil servants. They were treated fairly well. Either you were one of them, or - more likely - you have vivid dreams.
you clearly don’t want to hear what I have to say.
I would tell you but I know how this conversation will probably end: you’re going to tell me I met the wrong people and I have no idea what really went on in the Soviet Union, and I should learn the real history of the USSR and whatever nonsense flies in the face of decades of evidence and Occam’s razor here on Lemmy. So no, sorry, I’m not going with the sealioning.
You plugging your ears and yapping is not the own you think it is. You clearly know nothing of the Soviet Union nor of the Gulags, and instead of actually engaging in good faith you just dismiss everyone as evil tankies.
Either provide proof of your claims or have the humility of listening to those that clearly know better than you.
To dismiss all the advancements in the USSR and to equate them to the Nazis is beyond baffling, it’s disgusting, it’s ahistorical, and spits in the face of the people that actually defeated Nazism.
If I’m trying to make a point, I try to substantiate it with evidence, not just generalizing about how I imagine the conversation is going to go. I’ve never talked with anyone from the USSR, but have known some from Cuba (as well as researchers who’ve worked there for an interval). There’s some variety in the perspectives, some are more negative, but there’s a clear throughline: even where the state takes a repressive position, these socialist countries are miles ahead of their comparable Western counterparts in all areas of social development. There’s a reason that after the fall of the USSR, there was a marked decrease in women’s rights, acceptance of queer people, and the safety of ethnic or racial minorities in the region. We can talk about the USSR’s shortcomings at serving these groups’ needs, but the myth of the USSR as a monolithic, socially conservative “redfash” state is laughable. It is simply untrue and any conversation with people who resided in the USSR or any socialist state, or just picking up a book by someone who isn’t sponsored by the Victims of Communism organization, should show that these minorities have benefitted from the proactive socialist state’s initiatives for their benefit much more than they’ve been held back by certain missteps (to be clear, there have been missteps).
Idiots advocating murderous concentration camps and wishing people where imprisoned and died in them can be found left and right of the political spectrum. They’re not the same thing, but they have three things in common:
They like dictactorships and things that dictatorships do, whether it’s a fascist of communist dictatorship.
They don’t know history, or cherry-pick what suits their crazy narrative.
They’re nauseating.
And you’re one of them.
The only horseshoe here is the one that obviously hit you in the head when you walked behind the horse and it reared, probably.
You tankies are seriously messed up in the brain. It’s quite amazing the amount of patently crazy history rewriting and BS you lot can spew out without flinching.
Hint: saying “you are proof that gulags are necessary” under any circumstances puts you in the same category of despicables as neo-Nazis, and a total waste of oxygen.
Have you ever read a history book that wasn’t assigned to you by your government?
I did better than that: I talked to people who lived in the Soviet Union.
I lived in the Soviet Union, and you clearly don’t want to hear what I have to say. It’s pretty clear that the only thing you care to hear is a narrative that supports your biases. You’re very transparent.
I’m sure you did.
The only people I met who lived in the Soviet Union who missed it after its disappearance were military, police, and civil servants. They were treated fairly well. Either you were one of them, or - more likely - you have vivid dreams.
Indeed I don’t.
You don’t have to take my word for it dullard, you can go read about how people who lived in USSR feel now that they got a taste of the alternative.
Former Soviet Countries See More Harm From Breakup
That’s the real world as opposed to your deranged fantasies.
Ooh, tell me about that. How did you meet?
I would tell you but I know how this conversation will probably end: you’re going to tell me I met the wrong people and I have no idea what really went on in the Soviet Union, and I should learn the real history of the USSR and whatever nonsense flies in the face of decades of evidence and Occam’s razor here on Lemmy. So no, sorry, I’m not going with the sealioning.
I think I’ll use Occam’s Razor myself - you’re probably just lying.
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You plugging your ears and yapping is not the own you think it is. You clearly know nothing of the Soviet Union nor of the Gulags, and instead of actually engaging in good faith you just dismiss everyone as evil tankies.
Either provide proof of your claims or have the humility of listening to those that clearly know better than you.
To dismiss all the advancements in the USSR and to equate them to the Nazis is beyond baffling, it’s disgusting, it’s ahistorical, and spits in the face of the people that actually defeated Nazism.
If I’m trying to make a point, I try to substantiate it with evidence, not just generalizing about how I imagine the conversation is going to go. I’ve never talked with anyone from the USSR, but have known some from Cuba (as well as researchers who’ve worked there for an interval). There’s some variety in the perspectives, some are more negative, but there’s a clear throughline: even where the state takes a repressive position, these socialist countries are miles ahead of their comparable Western counterparts in all areas of social development. There’s a reason that after the fall of the USSR, there was a marked decrease in women’s rights, acceptance of queer people, and the safety of ethnic or racial minorities in the region. We can talk about the USSR’s shortcomings at serving these groups’ needs, but the myth of the USSR as a monolithic, socially conservative “redfash” state is laughable. It is simply untrue and any conversation with people who resided in the USSR or any socialist state, or just picking up a book by someone who isn’t sponsored by the Victims of Communism organization, should show that these minorities have benefitted from the proactive socialist state’s initiatives for their benefit much more than they’ve been held back by certain missteps (to be clear, there have been missteps).
Didn’t take long for the horseshoe theory to rear its head. I love how all the dronie bots run on the same script. 🤣
Idiots advocating murderous concentration camps and wishing people where imprisoned and died in them can be found left and right of the political spectrum. They’re not the same thing, but they have three things in common:
And you’re one of them.
The only horseshoe here is the one that obviously hit you in the head when you walked behind the horse and it reared, probably.
idiots making straw man arguments when they have nothing of value to say
I can tell by your vocabulary that you are british therefore your opinion is worthless.