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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid

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Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid

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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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In his starkest warning yet, President Zelenskyy said that "Ukraine will lose the war" to Russia if Congress does not act to send it more aid.
  • lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The free world loses when Russia wins.

    It’s pretty much an invitation to China to do the same in Taiwan and an invitation for Russia to start more wars in eastern Europe…

    Helping Ukraine costs money. Not helping Ukraine costs even more.

    • я не из калининграда@lemmy.ml
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      wait, you are not being ironical?

      how the fuck do you manage to claim that the west is the free world™ while it is the empire to blame for the largest amount of worldwide suffering in the second half of the twentieth century? It is responsible for countless invasions, sanction regimes and assassinations with the goal of subjugating foreign nations, as well as courting nazis post ww2, like for example people like klaus barbie or wernher von braun, as well as the entire early government of the frg.

      your fantasizing about a supposed military threat from the prc to taiwan and from russia to the rest of europe is nothing but pure projection, since you westoids apparently cant imagine someone acting from a different motivation than your own. the prc has time and time again stated that it prefers a peaceful resolution to the taiwan conflict and the province has never officially declared any grade of independence from the mainland, simply being under a different government, the roc.

      russia on the other hand has absolutely no reason to start any military conflicts in western europe, something you would know, if you would even try to understand the lead up to the current situation.

      your last sentence honestly just sounds like a thinly veiled blood for the blood god.

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        Fuck off with your Putin propaganda.

        • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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          imnotfromkaliningrad’s comment includes reasoning and it’s obviously their opinion. Meanwhile yours is the propaganda verbatim with no analysis and no reasoning.

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          sadly, even if you follow russian propaganda to the word, which i dont btw, you would still more often than than not end up with the truth. maybe the west should try to be less evil.

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            Found this video about how Americans live. North Korean propaganda says we eat birds. All countries distort the truth, even ‘Merica. I wish more people understood this.

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              the video was actually not made by north korea. it is a parody created by a british comedy director. dprk media typically depicts the us in a fairly accurate manner, or at least more truthfully than how american media portrays korea.

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                I’m so gullible. I wanted to make coffee out of snow after this video. I thought this was real too, until my wife told me it had to be fake. I wanted it to be real.

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                  i feel ya, western propaganda against korea is sadly hard to undo, considering the sheer amount of it. a great way to do it through is to read korean history, with a wonderful beginners read on the topic being this book. after a while you realize that many of the claims against the dprk are often nothing but simple projection, like for example haircut policing being an actual thing in 1980s south korea.

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      The free world loses when Russia wins.

      I’d pay good money to watch the Anglos crash and burn tbh. Like, PPV amounts of money. At this point it might be the only way to avert climate collapse; if possible at all, and I have no material reason to want to see you propagate or prosper. Die faster; and do a backflip on your way down.

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        K

    • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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      Does the free world also include places America has invaded or bombed?

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        Japan, SK, and Germany seem on board with aid to Ukraine… So yes

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          Three formerly fascist states join Ukraine thonk

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            “formerly” fuckin lmao

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            The fuck is your point?

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              He would rather a current fascist state join them

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                Liberals understanding fascism challenge (impossible) https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Fascism

                Meanwhile, in Ukraine…

                • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
                • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
                • Truthout, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made
                • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
                • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
                • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
                • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
                • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
                • The Conversation, 2022: Ukraine war follows decades of warnings that NATO expansion into Eastern Europe could provoke Russia

                .
                Fascism didn’t suddenly appear in 2014, either, it’s been there this whole time.

                • The History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
                • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
                • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
                • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
                • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

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