• MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    What are you asking for? For iMessage to become the standard for messaging?

    It’s the telcos fault SMS sucks and it’s the telcos fault RCS is a joke unless you use Googles implementation on Android.

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      7 months ago

      No, but API interoperability with literally anything else would be a damn good start. Right now Apple sues anyone who tries to make a bridge between iMessage and other standards.

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        7 months ago

        Why? iMessage is a proprietary platform that Apple invested billions into. Expecting them to have API inter-op is idiotic. It’s not like you can’t text people outside of iMessage. There’s SMS, and people are free to use it. Expecting a “bridge” between two standards for the sake of having a bridge tells me people do not know how any of this works and are just parroting the same stupid arguments put forth by people that, again, do not understand how a technology is planned for, developed and maintained.

        If there’s such an appetite, ask the fucking government to set a standard and ask every smartphone operating in the country to comply. It’s really that simple.

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          7 months ago

          upvoted for you last paragraph. bingo. and i’d love that. all the basic functions should be done to a standard, and a good one to boot. save time, money, and bullshit baby games on all sides.

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          7 months ago

          Don’t bother mate. Lemmy is a dumpster fire filled with angsty teenagers who hate their green bubble. It’ll be another couple decades before they understand how the world works.

          • generalpotato@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            True. I’m fine with the likes of Lemmy/Reddit users not getting it, but in this case, we have a DOJ that thinks this is somehow for them to solve. Law making via litigation is just lazy and moronic imo.

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        7 months ago

        How would a third party client guarantee e2e encryption with iMessage?

        And by what mechanism was that company enabling that bridge? Did that mechanism store iCloud credentials? Did it encrypt the drives the users iCloud data could have been downloaded to? Did they have access to iMessages in clear text before forwarding them?

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          7 months ago

          The entire web is built on standardized e2e encryption schemes fought for by techie nerds so that we don’t have these problems there.

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          I’m not a programmer, but this doesn’t seem hard. The API could specify a cryptographic standard. Third party clients don’t need access to iCloud data, just the API to pass message and attachment content in encrypted form with a standardized handshake.

          What am I missing?

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      7 months ago

      People forget the state of SMS before Apple decided to tell telcos to go fuck themselves and rolled out iMessage.

      Americans would still be paying per-text message without Apple.

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        7 months ago

        All fine and dandy. Kudos to Apple for the innovation! But then they decided to keep it strictly inside Apple.

        That’s not how communication works. Imagine if Bell kept the telephone to themselves… Oh wait… They tried… Got sued for it… Company broke up and the whole world got interoperable telephone system that is alive to this day.

        Innovation is great, capitalizing on innovation is also great. But eventually it needs to reach everyone and the answer cannot be “then everyone should buy Apple”.

        Imagine if DARPA kept the Internet as “Americans only”

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          7 months ago

          So you’re saying iPhones are as important to humanity as the internet and should be equally regulated as such?

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            You missed the entire point. Typical Apple fanboy.

            The iphone isn’t at all important to humanity and that’s why it should be regulated. Especially when something so unimportant gets such a large market dominance.

            Anyone should be able to buy anything and expect things to be interoperable.

            I like the airpods. They don’t work properly on android. Why?

            They could easily license out the tech and other companies will pay billions for it. and Apple will get their ROI.

            Intel was forced to license x86.

            Face it. Apple’s behavior is visibly monopolistic. It wouldn’t have landed on DOJ’s desk if there were no good reason.