The memo clarifies that it includes “arrests, not just convictions.” That’s one loophole - illegal stop & arrest now serves as a basis for kidnapping just the same.

Mainstream media: Sorry, best we can do is a deep dive into his troubled childhood so we can better understand how such a good person could make one bad choice that shouldn’t haunt him for the rest of his life.

Just when I can’t imagine how this timeline could get any dumber.

Well, Trump is going to finally “find” those 11,780 votes.

I’m confused and probably stupid, but…should the guy not be crawling 100 meters versus 1 km (1,000 meters)? What part of my brain has damage from being dropped as a child?

If we want anything at all to change, Miller would need to be removed somehow as well.

I know I’m a broken record here, but Miller is the engine for Trump’s entire immigration and Insurrection Act / martial law plan. It will absolutely continue even without Noem.

Not sure if police were on hand to arrest or not, but it looks like he was arrested:

The Office of Rep. Omar issued the following statement after the incident:

“During her town hall, an agitator tried to attack the Congresswoman by spraying an unknown substance with a syringe. Security and the Minneapolis Police Department quickly apprehended the individual. He is now in custody. The Congresswoman is okay. She continued with her town hall because she doesn’t let bullies win.”

This is really the important point, specifically Miller. Even Vance is an empty vessel, he isn’t the motivator here. Miller is the one directing all of this.

If these people are getting thrown to the wolves by Trump, it’s because Miller sees danger to himself and is Wormtonguing Trump to give the public & media fresh meat. But Miller’s goal here is just to make them stop pursuing before public hearings, investigations and the blame cycle reaches him. He’s hoping by replacing a few people (and maybe offering up Noem), the pliant GOP and fickle media will drop this.

Yup, this is just to change the news cycle and claim there’s been a response since Trump was losing the propaganda war in his attempt to justify martial law. If politicians and media start to talk about this as addressing the issue, or is protests die down, it will have worked as intended.

I guess Trump made this specific accusation because he saw the headlines about him making at least $1.4 billion in his first year back in office, and felt he needed to poison the well.

I know the DOJ has no credibility anymore, but god, imagine a world where they did their job and investigated the $400 million jet, the hundreds of millions of untraceable crypto and meme coins he’s started that foreign actors could use anonymously in violation of FECA and Constitutional emoluments restrictions, the “Board of Peace” donation fund controlled by Trump personally…

What, and have them feel a modicum of responsibility for their actions?

Wow, it’s like you don’t even appreciate the roving gangs of unaccountable state-sponsored masked murderers that Stephen Miller and Trump worked so hard to buy for you with your money.

Maybe the mainstream will finally reach consensus on the label just as the last reporters are being onboarded at gunpoint to concentration camp trains.

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Technically you can’t be on a ban list for ban evading if you didn’t let yourself be banned, and it obscures further a consistent record of astroturfing or rule-breaking, are my guesses.

Each one individually says, “I’m an exception - to get elected, I’ll just hammer the stake into the heart of American democracy a little,” somehow ignoring the thousands of other Republicans with their hammers waiting nearby.

Then of course when American democracy’s corpse is lying bloody and lifeless on the altar, they go all shocked Pikachu, take no responsibility, and change nothing.

Photos of the scene, work timesheets showing who is there, witness information…

I also would love to see charges filed immediately, but there’s a reason they collect all the evidence first. Yes, we all saw it, but a good state prosecutor has to know at this point the federal Trump DOJ and DHS will certainly remove the case to federal court (even if it proceeds under state law) and will try to intervene to dismiss. They will pull out every dirty trick possible to avoid a finding of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That includes sabotaging evidence solely in their custody or claiming the prosecutor did not do due diligence and then produce some magically exonerating new evidence.

If we want the charges to stick, we need to box in the DOJ and DHS.

Yup, they know speed is more important than accuracy. They create an early narrative as soon as it happens so the bots and fascists on social media have a clear consistent message.

They are sustaining an entirely fabricated reality and it needs constant maintenance.

Ehhh…The thing about the cycle of violence is it’s a circle. I’d feel better seeing her get just punishment for treason and aiding and abetting murder that lasts the rest of her life with no escape.

Thanks for the links, I’ll watch them - scanning I see it’s about infrastructure and congressional process. My existing understanding of direct non-violent action are things like blocking highways, which yes, I agree with.

I agree with the thesis of the video. The missing ingredient, leadership, is both missing and also prevented from forming bottom-up because the “leaders” in positions of opposition power - Jefferies, Schumer, etc - are just taking up space, issuing statements and doing nothing to organize meaningful opposition. These “leaders” need to step up or step down.

But apart from that, I mean, I’m struggling to see the lesson for what it means for people on the ground. I debated with others many times here about guns/violence, and just to get it out of the way, I still do not think it benefits anyone to violently engage ICE. ICE has the federal government’s monopoly on violence and is aching to wield it. I’ve seen zero cases of protestor-initiated violence, but one case of clear violence started (even justifiably) from the protestors will be used for exponentially more indiscriminate brutality than whatever we gain, because they don’t view us as human and have no fear of prosecution. Their disinformation machine, helped by Russian bots and astroturf influencers, will amplify it a million-fold and could manufacture the consent they need.

But at least, should protestors be armed? I thought that protesting while legally armed would dissuade ICE. But Alex Pretti was legally armed and was murdered, just like Renee Good was murdered while not armed.

The only plausible non-violent tactic, beyond protesting and hoping, is an indefinite general strike. It doesn’t need to last long, and likely wouldn’t need to, but it just has to be organized well enough to be clearly sustainable indefinitely.

Are any leaders anywhere planning that? I have heard zilch.

Not just circulated. DHS posted the photo on their Twitter in a post claiming the victim was a violent assailant and claiming the weapon in the picture was theirs.