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  • The woman’s husband eventually arrives and tries to intervene, and he made a separate recording of the interaction on his phone. He tells the agents not to search her car because they don’t have a warrant and it would be an illegal search. The agents appear dismissive of his constitutional concerns.

    “I’m not getting into the legality of everything,” one agent responds tersely.

    MPR News interviewed the woman and her husband, who also doesn’t want to be identified, fearing retaliation.

    The woman said the agents put her into one of their vehicles and started driving toward the Twin Cities, presumably to the Whipple Federal Building near MSP Airport, where ICE has an immigration detention facility. About 20 minutes into the drive, when they were near Le Sueur, she says one of the agents got a call, apparently from an ICE supervisor. They turned off Highway 169 at the next exit and drove back toward St. Peter.

    The husband told MPR News that after his wife was taken into custody, he called his attorney, and soon after, he got a call from St. Peter Chief of Police Matt Grochow, whom he said he has known for years.

    Bolded above.

    Observations:

    1. They execute a high-speed box stop which is dangerous to not just the innocent observer, but bystanders, all while there is zero evidence of any illegal conduct happening.

    2. From the recording they all had guns drawn and pointed from the moment they stepped out of the car, meaning there was no escalation - they emerged ready to use deadly force without any grounds or justification. The only explanation is intent to kill or unlawfully intimidate.

    3. Those thugs were potentially driving her to be flown out of Minnesota. After that, who knows. They were informed of the unconstitutionality of an illegal search and demonstrated they didn’t care.

    4. The only reason she was saved was that the husband knew the local chief of police, which - while great and especially nice for local communities where this is more common - is certainly not going to apply to everyone.

    In any normal timeline they would all be fired and potentially be the basis for a constitutional rights violation suit for multiple reasons above.






  • Thanks for this. I don’t think it applies here.

    50.15 says this is when employees are sued in their individual capacity for official duties. Inter-defendant conflicts of the type in 50.15(a)(10) are typically for when multiple defendants have competing interests and that presents a conflict to joint representation. At best, I see provisions regarding whether the DOJ is not obligated to pay money damages for an employee’s wrongdoing ((a)(8)(iii))

    The situation here may just be too corrupt. Trump is suing with private counsel a third party government agency that is technically not him, but the issue is that the captured DOJ itself also is now de facto personal counsel to Trump. The IRS and Treasury are defendants that should be represented by the DOJ, except that the DOJ is irreparably conflicted. So it is Trump, by DOJ proxy, deciding whether to give himself money out of the public’s pocket, and the fact that he filed the suit itself suggests his answer is “yes, I deserve it.”

    And, despite this, no private litigation counsel could even address this, because the DOJ would still retain authority to settle.


  • ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KAREN TRAVERS: Mr. President, why are you suing your our own administration and the IRS? Why are you suing?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Who are you with?

    ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KAREN TRAVERS: I’m with ABC News.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You’re a loud person! Very loud! Let somebody else have a chance.

    ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KAREN TRAVERS: Can you answer the question? Why are you suing IRS?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: ABC Fake– ABC fake news!

    ABC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KAREN TRAVERS: You’re suing. Can you answer–.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Go ahead. I didn’t call on you. Go ahead, please, go ahead. Go ahead!

    REPORTER: Do you think you’re coming?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: ABC, by the way, is truly one of the worst.

    REPORTER: Do you think the upcoming talks between Russia and Ukraine stand a chance without U.S. Envoy Witkoff and Jared Kushner there.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I think they stand a chance. We’ve been trying. I’ve ended eight wars. All of them, I thought, were going to be maybe tougher than…

    So he never answered the question. Just moves on to another reporter after being a complete dickface.



  • Thanks, this is not a sealion question: do you have something to further read about this or support this? I’d like to understand how the DOJ is actually bound. The DOJ has been run by Bondi as Trump’s private law firm, regardless of their mandate, and I expect that to continue.

    My initial suspicion is that anything short of a Supreme Court ruling (and possibly not even that) will force compliance by the DOJ, but after-the-fact compliance may be meaningless as well. It’d be quite typical for Trump/Bondi to fully “defend” and settle the case with taxpayer money already in Trump’s account before any challenges complete, followed by appeals, etc.