• phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    What cheering?
    Are you trying to convince me that making a neutral meme about a shitty person’s success is equatable to supporting/being a nazi?

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      Maybe I’m the odd one out, and do tell me if you think that’s the case, but when I can, I don’t support homophobes with my wallet nor my words.

      It’s like voting with your wallet, but for free. Image is a tool, just like capital, and I feel that contributing to theirs is a form of (albeit minor) support. Maybe I should’ve used supporting, or another word. Point is, Andreas does that, and I think it’s because he likes Brendan. Thinks he’s great, shouldn’t have joined the people decrying him for being a homophobe.

      People who care about LGBT folks don’t usually like homophobes, and aren’t usually against decrying them. I don’t think this is a good sign for Andreas. That’s the kind of thing that you need to keep in mind when you see that first PR.

      Are you trying to convince me that making a neutral meme about a shitty person’s success is equatable to supporting/being a nazi?

      No, I tried to make that clear. I actually don’t get how you read it that way. Also, the meme isn’t neutral when you consider how he views Eich, just like it isn’t originally neutral towards Gaben and Steam when gamers use it.

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        2 days ago

        The guy literally created javascript. It shouldn’t be a surprise that somebody who’s developing a web browser holds some amount of respect for him.

        We could argue about this all day, but neither of us are Andreas, so we shouldn’t be assuming his beliefs based on a few interactions on social media.

        None of this should get in the way of the web browser’s success anyway, because it’s not relevant to the project.

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          What’s surprising is his complete lack of care that Eich is probably still against gay marriage.

          It’s not just a few interactions, it’s Andreas’ entire attitude around these topics. You absolutely can judge people and guess their beliefs from their online actions. Connect the dots, why don’t you?

          I’m not “separating the art from the artist” when the artist is alive and frolicking with a homophobe. That’s very much relevant to me, I see LGBT folks being harmed every day due to such indifference.