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Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Muskā€™s daughter, accused her father of giving a ā€œdefinitely Nazi saluteā€ at two rallies in January, calling his actions ā€œfucking cringe.ā€

In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Muskā€™s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trumpā€™s administration.

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    I donā€™t know why you are downvoted. You are using her preferred pronouns.

    It was the parent (edit: my grandparent) poster who repeatedly, and most likely intentionally, used the wrong pronoun.

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      did they edit their comment? or is it wrong to call someone who prefers she/her by they/them? i feel like they/them is the neutral version so if you prefer either he/him or she/her then they/them also applies, no? sorry if iā€™m being ignorant here.

      edit: i guess people do distinguish they/them as a way to identify non-binary people, and so using they/them on a person who specifically requests she/her can be offensive if you have been informed that they have a preference. but i donā€™t see how using they/them to describe a person you donā€™t know anything about other than that they are transgender is offensive when there are so many possibilities for preferences. as a cis man i donā€™t feel offended being refered to as they/them and i think it would only be respectful to assume that someone who transitions ftm would also be comfortable with that, unless otherwise stated. iā€™m not a woman so i obviously canā€™t say for certain but iā€™d imagine i would also be okay with she/them, and therefore a mtf transgender would also be okay by default. ā€˜by defaultā€™ in this case meaning the circumstance in which you havenā€™t been explicitly informed of their preferences. i guess thatā€™s just my respect compass- which very well might be wrong from some peopleā€™s point of view but i think itā€™s obvious that it doesnā€™t come from a negative place, which is why i donā€™t think the original comment in necessarily trying to disrespect her.

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        The article, the title, and the summary, all use her preferred pronouns.

        I think ā€œtheyā€ is perfectly fine if the preferred pronouns are actually undisclosed (or are the persons preferred pronouns, obviously).

        But using ā€œtheyā€ like three times, in response to a post where the proper pronouns were used? And with an oppositional tone? It lays it all pretty clear that the grandparent was intentionally saying ā€œtheyā€ as a sophomoric attempt to express their disrespect.

        My parent, who is downvoted, is quite clearly calling grandparent out on it.

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          But using ā€œtheyā€ like three times, in response to a post where the proper pronouns were used.

          I donā€™t see that being an issue, unless as you pointed out the tone of the rest of the paragraph. Iā€™ve have tried to made a habit of using they and them most of the time when I write stuff even for cishet folks.

          E: you know what, re reading some of my comments I donā€™t do that nearly as often as I thought i did. I apologize.

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          taking the article into more consideration i think you are right, this comment was pushed to the bottom so i guess by the time i got there it had slipped my mind what exactly the article said haha. though i do think it comes from a place of ignorance rather than malice. i personally might have made the same mistake which is why i attempted to give them the benefit of the doubt. prior to conversing with you i wasnā€™t very well informed on the etiquette. i would have assumed ā€œthey/themā€ was just the safest route to avoid offending anyone regardless of whether or not i knew.