That should be enough to worry anybody.

Or if you’re someone who uses speech to text on your phone. Nearly every system that I’ve ever used asterisks out everything after the first letter. It can be a lot of extra effort to go back and fill the fucks in. But if there’s one fucking thing worth doing fucking right. Fucking filling out those fat fucking fucks is fucking it. It’s one of the most fucking versatile words on the planet. It can be a fucking adjective, one of the most versatile verbs no matter what fucked up tense you choose, and even a motherfucking noun.

You might wanna check with siri on that. Apple regularly failed at that even under the leadership of Jobs. And Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. It’s already looking like it’s going to be just standard remote chat GPT. Hallucinations and all.

You can do it easily if you aren’t running full HD or something heavy. Enlightenment runs great on my Pi B and 2 B.

They’re still tracking and harassing Chinese expats that were involved with Tienanmen. Expats as in left the country. Even in the US and UK. It’s not out of the question.

Wow I’m surprised you even admitted your dishonesty. Leninists usually don’t do that ever. They’ll die on the hill they’d made for themselves rather than adjust their beliefs or admit fault.

You could have just said that without making shit up and being dishonest. I know the reason you didn’t. But you could have done that. The reason you didn’t though. You did not give any evidence. You cited two correlations and called it a causation of a separate 3rd thing with no evidence. There is as much evidence to support my statement as there is the support yours. Make of that what you will. But don’t go trying to convince anyone that you have any facts or evidence LOL.

Over the last century the United States has pushed a lot of propaganda at home and abroad that is a fact and I never disputed it. They aren’t alone on that either. I just think it’s hilarious that people think that just automatically translates into the online space. They’ve been shit at it. And on their back foot the whole time. The internet has poked more holes in it than everything before it. And they are far more vulnerable to foreign misinformation themselves then their modern contemporaries.

The idea that the US gov’t doesn’t propagandize the US people is just so laughably and observably false.

I never said they didn’t. But thank you for showing that you’re not here in good faith and are just being disingenuous. It lets us all know not to bother talking to you.

I’m not denying that all countries do it including the United states. What I’m simply pointing out is the absurdity of the claim that the United States and their military are even very prevalent let alone effective at it these days on line.

There are much better/ safer ways of keeping the population divided without turning them into acolytes of a foreign adversary.

Combine that with the fact that China and Russia are even bigger Echo Chambers than the United Statesever was. The fact there was even debate about Banning Tick Tock no matter how stupid the decision in the end was. Just proves it.

Whatever influence operation they’re pushing domestically will largely be through TV and radio. Anything they do over the internet is going to meet far higher diminishing returns and require far more effort. They are absolutely still doing it. But they’re spending much more time defending against it than employing it themselves.

But they do it for a reason. For a purpose. Not just for funsies. I don’t see how them spreading misinformation weakening themselves is a logical goal. This is what you are arguing for. You need to support this. And the quote you just quoted does not

No. But thak you for the contribution of your strawman. You gonna try to actually respond to anything I said? Or just going to continue to damage your position?

I’d say it’s unpopular because we have a lot of evidence to the contrary. We know for a fact that a large amount of traffic on Twitter and other social media sites are bots. We know for a fact that many political actors are paid. The problem is the people complaining about it most tend to be the ones who use them the most. Casting aspersions against those who don’t. All in an effort to confuse and muddy the waters so no one questions their use.

The same for fake news. People crying about the most are the ones who put out the most. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Even if the accusations are often false

Realistically any group would be foolish not to take advantage of something like Bots or AI to help Drive their message. Even if it’s true.

We should just never take anyone screaming accusations at face value though.

That’s non sequitur. And doesn’t really even pass basic critical thinking tests. The government which has outsized control of all television radio and print media in the United States. Is really spending that much time and effort to propagandize to Americans on an international platform already heavily skewed fascist and right wing? Just because they ran ML off doesn’t mean it was some sort of government psyop. A lot of people even on the left. Don’t like Marxist leninists for good reasons.

Social media is one of the current best vectors for finding influence in the United states. If the US government really is using it to propagandize the people. They’re doing such a poor job of it I don’t think we really have anything to worry about from our governments propagandizing at all.

Nearly half the American voting population has a more favorable outlook on a foreign fascist dictator than they do our own president. And a large chunk of that current government is actively seeking to hurt American Allies and destroy the country’s power at large. Talk about a propaganda fail.

No the more likely explanation is that they’re pissing against a tide of a foreign misinformation. And having just about as much success as pissing against the ocean.

Superman 64 Wide-screen with ray tracing?! Now that’s gaming!

No it literally wouldn’t. It’s absolutely possible to produce smaller lightweight vehicles with the exact same standards. But unfortunately we’ve all been pushed towards larger vehicles. Simply because they make more money on them.

One other part of the factor that isn’t often mentioned. Is that they believe and in some small aspects are not mistaken. That the US government is just as corrupt manipulative and bad as theirs. And see critique of their government as hypocrisy. And a lot of Americans feel the same under similar critique.

If they are publicly owned the probability goes to 100% that they’re shitty. If they’re privately owned theres still a good chance.

You know exactly why we bring it up. And you know just how pathetic that rebuttal was. I don’t have to tell you that’s for sure.

Bragging about having multiple accounts for the purpose of ban evasion is a bold strategy cotton. We’ll see how it plays out. But I don’t think it’s quite the reputational flex you think it is.

And what’s with bringing up the NYT bullshit again. I already said I don’t trust nor am I referring in any way to the New York times. You keep bringing this up like you’re making some sort of point. Having some sort of conversation with someone no one else can see. Are you broken? The fact that China controls and manipulates every single business that operates inside China is something that’s been reported on for decades. Through multiple Outlets and multiple sources. It’s not something controversial unheard of or without base.

I absolutely think it’s hypocritical and stupid that the United States is Banning tiktok without at least Banning daily wire and other similar Outlets as well. They’re all manipulative propaganda ultimately. Although I don’t think we should be banning any of them myself. Just saying they’d be less hypocritical if they did.

It’s clear you REALLY like Xi though sport. Maybe someday he will notice you. But I know for sure that I won’t. Bye grad.

I got no love for NYT. Again mister not yet month old account. Look at my post history. I regularly point out our medias fash bias. What evidence do you have that China. A country known for meddling in and manipulating business in China. Is not meddling in and manipulating this particular Chinese owned brand.

Let it not be neglected that you just moved your goalposts. But if you feel so strongly about this. Surely you must have some hard evidence to share with us poor brainwashed plebs. 😏 Starting to smell awfully hexbear/grad.

Funnily enough. If you weren’t jumping to conclusions about things not being said. I actually agree with you on that. I think it’s hypocritical that the government is doing this. I’m still allowed and have good reason to dislike tiktoc more.

You’re welcome to go look at my post history from the last few days. I’ve made the exact argument that it is hypocritical. And believe me I’d rather move off to something like peer tube entirely. But there’s logistics still needing to be addressed before that. And currently we’re largely stuck in a few inescapabe duopolies. Least worst of two inadequate choices. And yes YouTube wins that technically by being mildly less manipulative. Not by much. Believe me I know how much their algorithm stirs the pot trying to get engagement.

And yes I know it’s not a debate. That was specifically why I said that. To point out that it wasn’t a debate that there were no accusations of fact or anything being discussed there. You were simply jumping to a conclusion that was unsupported.

I concede. Can’t argue with facts like that. You’d have to be brainwashed to want to be spied on by one less entity. Oh wait my mistake. You have no facts. You’re just expressing a baseless useless opinion that isn’t worth shit. Have a nice day :-)