Astronomer & video game data scientist with repressed anger

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  • Depends on how one defines “win”.

    We coulda gotten more people here. Reddit’s kind of the perfect centralized service to decentralize. Major subreddits have millions of subscribers and mods with years of experience managing large communities. Many of them could have set up their own Lemmy servers and just said “we’re over here now”. You get a few large, but still not exactly mainstream r/all kind of subreddits doing that, and things could’ve been significantly different.

    At the same time, there are several ordres of magnitude more people here now than there was before, and the space isn’t showing any signs of dying. That’s kind of a big L for Reddit, as they’re going to continue enshitifying themselves in the months and years ahead, and there’s a legit, if somewhat underground, alternative space for people to go when they’re finally fed up. Now with an insane amount of mobile app support, to boot.











  • I didn’t say they blocked few people. I said they blocked few websites.

    Lemmygrad is full of agitators, and Lemmy.world and SJW have, from my experiences, a disproportionate number of people who reject communal solutions to communal issues, while still feeling entitled to access to communal spaces.

    Meanwhile, other large sites, like Lemmy.ml and kbin.social, and smaller regional sites, such as Midwest.social, Lemmy.ca, and feddit.uk, are federation with them just fine.

    That doesn’t sound like mass defederating to me.

    That sounds targeted.


  • Yeah, setting up new instances is a different issue, of course. And there is definitely a lack tools to help with that as of yet. We need things like rate limiting on new federations, or on unusual traffic spikes, mod queues for posts that get caught up in them. Plus the ability to purge all posts and comments from users from defederated sites.

    Among other things.


  • Kichae@kbin.socialtoLemmy@lemmy.mlProof that bots are manipulating content
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    The beehaw approach wasn’t “bulk defederation”. They blocked two Lemmy instances they were having trouble with. The bulk of their block list are Mastodon and Pleroma instances well known for trolling other sites and stirring up shit.

    Edit: Autocomplete refuses to accept that I talk a lot about federation and defederating, and is desperately trying to convince me I’m talking about anything else that states with “de”.


  • The solution is to choose servers with admins who are enabling bot protections.

    If admins are not using methods to dissuade bot signups, then they’re not keeping their site clean for their users. They’re being a bad admin.

    If they’re not protecting their site against bots, they’re also not protecting the network against hosts. That makes them bad denizens of the Fediverse, and the rest of us should take action to protect the network.

    And that means cutting ties with those who endanger it.