The reflection of their heads is on the outside of the glass, so their head has to be trough a hole in the glass I suppose

Especially in the ‘we smoke more than we breathe’ era I’d say the word is explosive.

And immediately admitting he was wrong about it not being torture.

For real. My father was a gynecologist and always said - “I need their file to remember their names, why would I remember their genitals?”

And from a business standpoint it would be very bad practice to talk about that stuff, if it comes out people are less likely to trust you.

Huh, maybe they are just some sort of fucked up cat.

“Interesting, may I see?” And when they hold their wrist up to you, inspect it closely, then lick it, make some faces like a wine connoisseur, shake your head and say :“It’s fake” turn around and disengage.

A body at rest requires more energy to reach a given speed than one already in motion.

Can’t imagine living with the side chick during the divorce

I did, but it was my mom who betrayed my dad, we lived with her boyfriend for some time. But like I mentioned, my dad was an emotionally distant, almost cold alcoholic, who spent his time drinking alone or working instead of caring for his family. So I get that she had needs that weren’t fulfilled. Of course I was mad with her for some time but after some time I understood what moved her, as a child I didn’t really realize how our dad left us alone in that time.

Could my mom have made better decisions? Absolutely, she could’ve just divorced him.

Does my dad share blame for distancing himself from his family, years before the infidelity? Also yes.

Did I like living with my mom’s side piece? Hell no, I didn’t like that guy.

In the end it turned out alright, my dad got sober and through therapy learned to have meaningful relationships with his children and partners. My mom is married to another man, who I love dearly, even my father had an okay relationship with him.

All I’m trying to say is that human relationships are complicated, things like this betrayal don’t always happen in a vacuum. I mean sometimes they do, but we don’t know that here.

Hey, that person isn’t a good role model and did something absolutly deplorable. I want you to understand that this not a way to act and that these actions are very hurtful and demeaning to me and our family.

These actions now do have consequences, which is why I am divorcing him. I hope you will understand that I can not reconcile the betrayal and that actions like this will always hurt people and have harsh consequences.

But I understand that this person is your father and your relationship to him is important to you so I will try to make peace with that, in order to not hurt you any more than has already been done.

Seems also like a reasonable thing to say to your child. You know, not instrumentalizing your child to hurt the partner that betrayed you. Seems selfish to me, but what do I know.

But I should’ve know better than to expect healthy nuance from an online discussion anyways.

Edit: I got a little combative there, which was unnecessary

It’s not that hard of a concept to understand. In the described scenario both did something wrong, which is why I said, that both are partially wrong (regarding the described problem).

He is wrong for betraying his family and she is wrong for trying to pull the child into their dispute by making them choose sides.

So OP posted this, not only because his dad cheated and not only because his mom is trying to make them choose, but because of BOTH those things happening.

Honestly from what we know, which is next to nothing, both parents here are in the wrong partially.

But as someone else already said here, humans and their relationships are super complex and from just a little paragraph we shouldn’t judge either of them too harshly.

For example, my mom cheated on my dad, but we children stayed with her and understood her actions, because our dad was an emotionally unavailable alcoholic at that time. He turned himself around in the years following, becoming a better father. Both my parents made grave mistakes during their marriage and both shared blame in the breaking apart of our family and both, over time, accepted their part in it.

Life is not that easy, for none of us, everybody makes mistakes.

Maybe read your own point 2 again…

Beat me to it, same on my end.

Basic troubleshooting and reasoning.

That drives me nuts sometimes. Like even professionals sometimes seem unable to do basic troubleshooting. I work in live music, I am not a tech/engineer but have done a lot of tech work on and around stages.

Simple stuff like - one speaker is not giving a signal, two techs are unable to identify the fault for over 20 min. I observe for a bit, they check the console, they check the speaker, they check the power supply.

And I, half joking, ask - have you switched sides already? Both look at me like they don’t understand my question, I walk over to the signal line for the PA, unplug them both, plug the left side into the right signal and vice versa on the other side - the problem moves from one speaker to the other, so it has to be a faulty cable. I was so baffled by that.

WHY IS THAT NOT THE FIRST THING YOU DO??? It takes seconds!

Or a wireless in-ear system has weird noises in the signal, I suggest to switch the frequency, the old tech grunts at me that he has already done that, I check and he moved the frequency like 10mhz. I suggest to move to a totally different frequency range and he gets rude so I go somewhere else. Half an hour later it turns out I was right. Why do you fuck around with firmware and shit before you do something simpler and quicker?

Yeah, and we didn’t start the fire.

It’s Springsteen, not Billy Joel.

TLDR: Hard disagree on almost anything you just said

Well historically it is not a terrible system, it is very stable and tends to not self implode regularly like democracy does.

Yeah if you ignore for example wars of succession, because of incestuous family ties, arbitrary rule, repression and exploitation of its citizens, one could call it stable… Although the escalation and tyranny unfortunately are baked into the system.

if you look at monarchies historically they tried very very hard to avoid having rebellions in their hands and usually worked in the interest of the nation, as the interest of the nation was the interest of the monarch.

Have you ever read history books? Sure some rulers may have had that kind of view but theres also plenty of megalomaniacal, terribly violent and unjust rulers in those big ol books of history. And since it is an imposed rule of tyranny there’s really only violence to get rid of an unjust ruler, you know a neat thing about democracy? Violence is the last resort to getting rid of rulers because we can vote! Crazy right?

So if a democratic nation seems headed towards anti democratic rule, it would seem to me that a better goal would be to install a monarchy instead of a fascist.

In that case- what’s the fucking difference? Oh, to avoid an autocracy let’s install an autocracy with cherry flavor… Great?

I don’t know what depths we’re talking about here,

From the article:

The idea is relatively simple: hollow concrete spheres are installed at a depth of several hundred metres.

No, he was a good person.

I’ve met plenty of people where this would be an appropriate response. Not because they’re boring but because they’re trashy humans, I am not obligated to listen to someone’s hateful shit, I can just get up and leave.