Why not just use proton?

A few of the many reasons not to use Proton:

• their e2ee is snakeoil (see my comment here about why - but tldr it requires completely trusting them and if you completely trust them you wouldn’t need e2ee, the point of e2ee is to avoid needing to trust the service provider)
• their server-side code is closed-source
• they’re a freemium service which can and does arbitrarily decide to start charging for previously-free features
• they’ve suspended a number of users who they should not have
• their CEO is a trump fanboy.

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Its Swiss based.

You know who else was Swiss based? 🙄

Not sure about purism but I think its US so avoid it like a plague.

I don’t know enough about Purism to endorse them but afaict they don’t have any of the above problems.

Purism’s e2ee is PGP; you can use their service via their client software or whatever other client you want, and can communicate with people who are using different implementations with different mail providers. I don’t see any mention of them even offering webmail but I expect that if they do they would probably offer PGP there using a browser extension instead of having extremely-impractical-to-verify-before-running-it js code being sent anew from the server every time you load the page (which is how Proton’s webmail works, and also what they offer for non-Proton users to receive mail encrypted using their nonstandard encryption).

I’d rather have US legal jurisdiction and credible e2ee which doesn’t allow the operator to trivially circumvent it for targeted users than to have Swiss jurisdiction and snake oil.

the suggestion that you should maybe write down an eight digit hex string “in case you need it” is just adding insult to injury. i guess anything less than a 32bit space for error codes would be insufficient

is that jesus?

what could go wrong

The “girls FTW” mail in that bluesky post is indeed fake, but the daily beast article linked by this post does not include that one.

It is noteworthy how the existence of a fake thing which can be debunked can cause people to assume that similar-but-real things are also fake 😭

that screenshot is almost^[1] definitely fake; unlike the ones in the dailybeast article, phrases from it do not find anything in the search.

This one is fake

i don’t think so?

Its not one of the few occurrences of the word there

which word? i checked a couple and they’re there. eg, here is Musk planning a visit in January 2014.

daily beast is posting misinfo

it is irritating that they only provided a source link for one of the many mails they quote and have screenshots of, but i checked a few of the others and they do come up in the search.

Well, there was this German guy who immigrated to America evading the draft in Germany for WWI.

Leaving in [checks notes] 1885 to evade the WWI draft would be some impressive foresight.

(It was to avoid conscription, though.)

One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors.

As one of the moderators of [email protected] i encourage OP to look at the sort of posts i make and tell me - do you really think i’m a “Chinese state actor”?

Do you think all these posts i make in, eg, [email protected] and [email protected] and [email protected] and [email protected]… these are all part of a carefully-crafted cover, and I’m actually being paid by China to delete totally-not-racist posts depicting their president as a yellow cartoon bear?

And for this service, to maintain my cover, they also pay me to create memes like this and this and this and this and this and this (and defending that one against less informed nerds) and this and this and this (a small sample of my OC here)?

And do you think China paid for this understandable explanation of asymmetric cryptography using high-school level math, because someone asked, deep in a thread about a service which I’d also already debunked the snake-oil privacy claims of?

Really?

CBP is also the agency who’s officer(s) murdered Alex Pretti yesterday. (It was an ICE officer who murdered Renee Good.)

or not

good disclaimer. also, they aren’t open source, and from the tech background of the founder who self-funded it i doubt that he plans for it to ever be. in fact, among other cringe things on Issam Hijazi’s linkedin i see that he’s even worked for, enough to become an expert in the proprietary technology of, (checks notes) the very same zionist billionaire (paywall bypass) who just bought TikTok 😢

Also, one their FAQs is “Where does UpScrolled operate its servers and store data? Does it use Big Tech?”… the answer to which includes:

We do rely on some large-scale cloud providers at this stage — not because it’s our ideal, but because building fully independent infrastructure takes time. We’d rather be transparent about that than claim otherwise. Over time, we plan to reduce reliance on these providers and move toward greater independence.

… but We do rely on some is as far as their attempt at transparency took them - they aren’t actually saying which cloud providers they’re using or for what. (given the founder’s expertise i’d guess it’s probably AWS and/or Oracle.)

GNOME has a version of it called lightsoff (which is packaged in most major distros)

This is a sedate forum

[citation needed]

via this comment from @[email protected]

time for this classic again:

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odd that their username is @icegov.bsky.social instead of @ice.gov… i guess nobody on their social media team knows how to configure a DNS record or create a .well-known textfile.