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    1 day ago

    I feel like thats a bit dishonest, saying it like that kind of implies that instability and violence in the region is only a result of western imperialism, and kind of ignored both non western imperialist influences on the area and the deep history of internal conflict in the region.





  • Fighting tyranny doesn’t mean going to war with the US military.

    It can be things like black panther style community patrols. A lot of states are open carry, you could set up armed community patrols around your neighbourhood, and that would make the brownshirts a lot less likely to drop in and start abducting people.


  • support for Russia is strategic, support for China is because they are an actual socialist country.

    This sentence here invalidates anything else you might say. If you “strategically” support the imperialist, authoritarian capitalist power just because they are in opposition to a different imperialist capitalist power, then it’s not actually about oppossing imperialism or capitalism is it? You’re just being a contrarian.

    Same with China, it’s not a socialist country is it? The workers don’t have actually power, the party does and the workers can’t chose the party, china still has it’s Uber rich capitalist class that profit off the back of the workers. In fact it’s more of a capitalist hellhole than many western nations, but again tankies will ignore all that and blindly support then because of Pure contrarianisn to US bullshit.

    So you guys are just raging hypocrites that will support whatever bullshit, no matter how bad as long it’s vaguely anti-american/anti-western. So you’re as opposed to ACTUAL progress as even the most diehard neo-con, the only difference being how smug and holier than thou you lot are about and the fact that you really should know better.


  • I mean I expected this when I decided to engage with a .ml but still, it’s like you’re reading a completely different comment from the one I wrote.

    So against my better judgement I will try to engage you in good faith for a bit longer:

    I specified tankies and purity test leftists as different entities for a reason. Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.

    Then the purity testers are the ones who will just pointlessly infight about semantics in theory. Like for a real life example, I got purity tested earlier this year for saying I think there’s a difference between systemic racism and an individual act of racism, and anyone can be the victim of an individual act of racism. And apparently that makes me as bad as the KKK.

    So in summary I’m happy to talk to you guys about the how bad the effects of western imperialism is and how we to actively fight against it, so long as you don’t claim Russia and China are the good guys, in spite of all the evil shit they do, simply because they are a force that isn’t western.