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I don’t think white nationalists mind being called white nationalists. The same for zionists or islamists. What these descriptors and the people who stand by them have in common is that they all share isolationism, supremacy and the disdain for otherness. These features are all intertwined and inseparable, like the three sides of a shitty triangle.

One can say being called one of those descriptors when one finds them wrong and disagreeable is obviously offensive to the person in question.

As for if it constitutes hate speech… it’s a mess. I’m not one to police language and speech.

As the defense of every hateful person is that they can just be ignorant. And how true that is. But how convenient as well.

Trying to legislate intention is impossible, and banning words is a terrible idea. And using the elusive concept of the status quo for a barometer of what is acceptable is also not a good idea at all. So… what are we left with? Allowing speech to fight back speech, basically. It’s far from perfect, but is the best we have.

But in this case, yes, this is just someone drumming up fear in the racist bias of a portion of the public.

As for if he is ignorant and believes the nonsense he speaks or doesn’t and is just mad that there’s an actual voice for the people to hinder and reduce the control of the elites, which include him and the moron tech bro brigade he’s a part of…

I would say the distinction is irrelevant.

But that’s just me.

I’m going to hinder the complexity that is required to properly answer your question, for the sake of brevity…

Islamist=zionist=supremacist

You can say that it’s the same product in different colours.

As to this case in particular… It’s a racist trying to call someone a racist to distract from the fact that this is a capitalist that doesn’t like a socialist, because power doesn’t concede and it hates sharing.

Mamdani is actually succeeding at connecting the elite class to all the societal issues in the population’s eye.

So… It’s time for whistling in the racists through the post 9/11 phobia. Which in New York… you can fill in the rest.

If someone wants to add more complexity to my very reductionist take, please do.

The basis of understanding the trophic levels is paramount. Whenever one consumes from a trophic level, one is destroying more from the levels below. If people decided tomorrow to only consume carnivorous animals, they would be requiring even more animals, and therefore even more plants, meaning even more microorganisms. The quantity of energy one gets from one animal is less than what the energy intake of that animal was. Always. The larger the animal, the larger the loss. This does not change. Not even in the scavenger’s rule of the wild. Not even amongst other organisms in this planet. Never. It’s basic understanding of entropy and biology, but somehow this eludes the general population. However, the complexity of how trophic balance is achieved is more complex than this.

But still, this is why consuming from the lowest level possible ensures the lowest destruction possible. And why I am a big supporter of Precision Fermentation. Using bacterial and microbial life to grow our food as directly as possible is ingenious.

Sustainability, veganism, ethics… it’s all the same. We should all aspire to live our lives ensuring the minimum destruction possible. And if one uses one’s energy for the protection and the betterment of all life, not just oneself, or just animals, but plants, mycelium life, and microorganisms as well, the better it is to life itself on earth, regardless of species and categorization.

Syntropy vs entropy.

There’s plenty of crisps and chips out there which might not labeled as vegan, but are still nonetheless made without animal products.

To me, it’s salted dry fruits and nuts all the way in the situation you described. I do some farming and salted peanuts and toasted salted cashews are my favourites. Although cashews are quite on the nose more expensive, so I sprinkle them amongst the peanuts.

Pair me that with some lemonade in a thermos and I’m good to keep going.

I used to snack sandwiches, but that just made me feel like going to lie down after munching on them.

But like I said, there are chips too.

Turning on the heating during an heat wave??? What??? Did they throw some hot rocks and water on the floor of that bus and called it a “sauna on wheels service” while they were at it???

Also wow. And I thought that corruption here where I live in Portugal was bad. We do rank amongst the highest on corruption in the EU. And I bet these awful people take pride amongst themselves when looking at that ranking. May I ask what country is this going on? You don’t have to answer if you don’t feel comfortable doing so.

Good to know that that’s better now.

Thank you for answering my question.

It checks with everything else. I’ve never seen this level of overt neglect to public health from any government of any country in my lifetime.

From vaccines to healthcare research and healthcare access and even food inspection safety… from climate research, to weather monitoring to natural disaster prevention… they’re readying a level of catastrophe that I can’t even fathom what’s to come.

I’ve already met a lot of terrified Americans who migrated to my country in Europe to avoid so much of this. I can already see a lot of more of them to come, and it frightens me the global health crisis that will erupt from it.

And by the way, isn’t asbestos still legal to use in the US? I’m genuinely asking. I remembered being told so and was shocked that it still was. But that was a while ago.

And not just in California. Or just the U.S. But the whole wide world.

One can dream.

But seriously, Android users from all over the world who haven’t degoogled should sue and keep extending the precedents.

And then use the money from the settlements, if they get them, to buy a degoogled phone.

Or just degoodle the one they have and install Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish OS, Graphene or /e/os depending on the hardware they have. That way they’re not even spending Google money to get rid of google.

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If you are in one of the countries in Europe that is in the middle of this heatwave, they are at least not bothered by the possibility.

Also, liable. Someone might want to sue.

My girlfriend took notice of the 43°C in the thermometer this weekend.

That kind of heat in a bus ride with no Air-conditioning is going to get someone killed. Not to mention that everyone will suffer regardless and inevitably so.

This is one of the things that defeats me as someone who has been advocating for animal rights for almost twenty years now. How can I assemble some form of hope to establish non-human animal rights when the human rights are so clearly neglected and in some places even revoked these days?

I can’t see the end of exploitation of non-human animals in sight when humans are so uncaring for one another and even willing to hurt each other.

I’m still revolted by many things such as the ones in this post, but I haven’t been shocked by anything in a long time.

Yeah, RFK does sound like he believes the craziness he’s spewing. He’s gonna get a lot of people killed, that’s for sure. He already has. But the people who believe that he’s only gonna get the dumb side of Americans who believe him killed are so wrong. That’s not how this works. I get a lot of Americans on vacation where I live in Portugal. And it’s also true all over Europe and the rest of the world. And it is terrifying to think of the very probable outbreaks and who knows what else to come.

And thanks, I’ll use Wikipedia to read more about Lysenkoism over the weekend.

Thank you for the reply.

Thank you for clarifying. I’m sorry if I jumped in with my interpretation. I know who Lysenko was. But not much more than that he was a biologist who kept denying science in behalf of the state. So I didn’t know if that was what you meant and that is why I apologised in the advance if I was misinterpreting it.

But yeah, state dictating science. And the U.S. really seems to be headed to that level of catastrophes you described. I need to read more about Lysenkoism. Like I said, I didn’t know much about Lysenko other than he was a scientist betraying science for the state propaganda. I don’t even know if he believed the nonsense he was spreading. But then again, I don’t even know if the ones doing the same now do either. And I have a hard time reading up on people like that. Makes my stomach turn in revolt.

But as a permaculture enthusiastic and someone who has a project with his girlfriend that uses syntropic theory, I’m very curious to read about what kind of nonsense were they applying to farming back then. Do you have any suggestions to read? Like a book or an article? Or should I just put Lysenkoism in a search engine and eventually find the farming part? Would love to know more about this, so if you have some pointers, I would much appreciate to learn more about this.

I think it is comparing the Soviet’s movement spearheaded by a biologist named Trofim Lysenko to the the current lobbying to destroy science’s credibility. It was akin to the current lobbying against scientific integrity that started in the U.S. and bled everywhere else. People will immediately think of the hacks that move through the podcasts these days, I’m sure you can think of a few too. It’s using a veil of pseudoscience to confuse the layman and advance the purpose of a few under another veil, one of an ideology. Lysenko was very much like the figures of today like that kermit the frog imitation that passes for scientific expert on the “dumbtube”. I don’t want to name these horrific hacks. They’re already taking too much of the bandwidth as it is and for far too long. And I hate that most people that think they’re too smart to fall for their crap, fall right into the next trap, which is to go argue and generate more visibility for them. These people never learned the old online code “Do Not Feed The Troll”. We spotted them and let them starve. But I compared them more to Gremlins, because they multiply. The grifers spot the grift and chime in for the take.

I hope I didn’t misinterpreted the comment you asked about. But Lysenkoism is a great shorthand to describe it all indeed.

Beautifully said.