The order bars the detention of people unless the officer or agent “has reasonable suspicion” that the person to be stopped is violating U.S. immigration law.

A federal judge on Friday ruled that immigration officers in Southern California can’t rely solely on someone’s race or speaking Spanish to stop and detain them.

District Judge Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong issued a temporary restraining order after a lawsuit was filed by three men who were arrested as they waited to be picked up at a Pasadena bus stop for jobs on June 18, and after two others were stopped and questioned despite saying they are U.S. citizens.

Frimpong’s order bars the detention of people unless the officer or agent “has reasonable suspicion that the person to be stopped is within the United States in violation of U.S. immigration law.”

  • There’s a lot going on here, so I won’t try to respond to all of it.

    My point is merely that there are population clusters with genetic differences. It’s incorrect to say that we are all human, therefore scientifically we are all the same. In aggregate, the people of Japan are not the same as the people of Ireland. (This paragraph makes zero claims about individuals; it is scoped to large groups of people.)

    I just want to clarify that I’m not claiming that “race” per se is a thing, nor am I claiming that there are any mutually-incompatible human species. I’m not attempting to say anything about nationality, country borders, or deportations. The political madness happening in the USA is truly disgusting. I am deeply saddened by the cruelty and hatred that’s on display.

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      I understand “My point is merely that there are population clusters with genetic differences. It’s incorrect to say that we are all human, therefore scientifically we are all the same. In aggregate, the people of Japan are not the same as the people of Ireland”. The differences you mention as genetic can only be those that separate one person from another for example hair color, eye color, height, etc. All those localized differences don’t exist in the US because they are only sustained by having populations that rarely migrate. So when you visit Mexico and you’re the tallest guy in a huge crowd some of that comes from what you eat and some from your unique makeup as an individual. However our gene composition is all the same and only the various phenotypes change.

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        some other differences like vulnerability to certain diseases, like melanoma, CELIACS are uncommon in asians, and darker skin people while common europeans. additionally some people have parts of denisovan and neathardal Dna in them, but Africans dont. indigeneuous people of tibet have a gene that allows them to acclimate to altitude more easily, it came from denisovan lineage.

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          Dude, 99.9%. Like I said, local isolation has it’s markers. Denisovan or Neanderthal remnants only prove that both species did live together in some areas of the world. Certainly if someone came to me claiming their pinky toe is 100% Neanderthal, I would be interested naturally lol. But its not like that, not a clean simple discernable difference. Its just some patterns that are more available in some areas. Like if you lived in a cave with Neanderthals and we awaited for you for a few thousand years, the people coming out would have some of your DNA (if you were daring like that) and the rest of the Neanderthals outside would not. And a tiny vestigial remnant is not going to make one person super smart and superior. You’re talking to an indigenous brown person. We’re created equal. There’s no difference that makes any particular group superior over another.