• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 hours ago

    The only thing that companies and politicians reacting the wrong way about Charlie did right was to finally show you who are the Nazis.

    Anyone defending Charlie is a Nazi. I don’t care how they did it.

    “Oh you shouldn’t kill people because of political differences.” Nazi because they didn’t say shit when liberals have been murdered.

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      He openly advocated for the return of public executions, and making children watch. Anyone defending him is trying to walk you down the Nazi road and conveniently ignoring that in the end he practiced EXACTLY what he preached.

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      12 hours ago

      I have a friend whom is upset in our group chat due to memes and proceeded to claim charlie wasnt even the bad racist guy the left paint him to be. He said he has a hard time sharing a group chat with people who would speak so harshly about an actvist he agrees with politically (there is a black member in our chat). I shared some of charlies quotes including “You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to be taken somewhat seriously” and he still tried to claim this wasn’t a racist statement.

      His actions and personality don’t always line up with his political beliefs but its getting harder to keep him around. He & his mom has relied on welfare and our socialized healthcare their whole life (Canadian). He is part of the queer community and believes post secondary schooling should be free. But votes and supports conservative and is a bit of a trumper. I genuinely don’t get it. Both him and his mom would be homeless or worse if it weren’t for the social safety nets conservatives want to remove.

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        Both him and his mom would be homeless or worse if it weren’t for the social safety nets conservatives want to remove.

        I think some of these people believe that the social safety net would be better if all the (insert group here) were deported/jailed/killed because then there’s the same amount of money to be assigned to fewer people

        Something they ignore is that fewer people working = less productivity = fewer resources/less money.

        It’s why conservatives need to paint immigrants as both job stealers and lazy welfare queens. In either narrative there’s “less for you”.

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          He’s been a good friend since high school and as much as he says he’s so conservative, many of his actions speak otherwise. He doesn’t have a lot of friends or exposure to the outside world right now. Leaving him behind would likely result in him becoming more extremist. If his actions start mirroring conservative values, then hes probably being left behind.

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        7 hours ago

        But votes and supports conservative and is a bit of a trumper.

        He wants to benefit from everything society gives him but doesn’t want to provide that same benefit to others.

        Because he thinks he deserves it while others are stealing it from him.

        “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

        The main principle of conservatism is that they deserve everything while at the same time everyone else deserves nothing.

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        This issue for them is they think something more is owed to them. That deep down, they shouldn’t have had to rely on that welfare. In a better version of their lives, they would have the easy job that pays well. But the Democrats are the cause of their current circumstance.

        Disillusioned people who refuse to compromise with poor critical thinking and too much pride got us here. That can’t be “fixed” in 4 years.

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          His biggest issue is he never passed highschool and has never had a job. He has no work ethic from a rough upbringing but isnt really able to put in the work he needs to. Now hes got a slew of mental illnesses which i think is in part having no purpose or meaning in life except video games in moms basement.

          My parents owned a small business, they needed a general laboror and they would have picked him up and dropped him off at home. He wouldn’t have even needed an interview but he kept saying he is “above physical labor”. He then claims me being able to buy a house recently is all luck and due to my wealthy parents (who didn’t pitch a dime) and not hard work.

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            I see that issue sometimes and it always confuses me. Like, I personally believe all people are owed the basics of life, but nobody is above work that needs done unless the work they would otherwise be doing is more valuable. As an engineer I’ll do manual labor or work an assembly line if it’s so important it’s worth paying an engineer ro do it. But also like if you have no skills you’re gonna be stuck doing unskilled labor, that’s literally why a lot of us got skills

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              Starting with unskilled labor can be a path into skilled labor if you work as an apprentice in a trade. I’d say at least half of my current job relies on hands on experience from previous positions, the other half relies on my education. He is unfortunately lacking in both, and now that he’s nearly 30, its gonna be harder for him to build up those skills and get a good paying job. He is so adamant he won’t work for minimum wage which i get it, it sucks, but his expenses are quite low and he has to start somewhere. No one is offering a 100k position with benefits to a drop out with no experience and a 10 year gap in their resume.

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            Having a rough upbringing is no excuse. I also had a rough upbringing, and im an engineer now. You choose to try to make your situation better, or you don’t. The world may deal you a shitty hand, and if the issues you face are systemic, I can see it holding you back. But, it sounds like this guy is a poor white kid. They love to give out scholarships to poor white kids, its literally what got me through school.

            It sounds like your friend is just not the brightest crayon in the box. Kind of hard to pull yourself out of a shitty situation when you don’t have a lot going on upstairs.

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              He can be smart when he applies himself. He just struggles to apply himself. 1 hour of effort in a day is a full days of hard work to him. I agree you can’t just blame your upbringing, at a certain point you have to take your own life into your own hands.

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        I knew this Hispanic kid last year, may have been a citizen due to his partial Puerto Rican Ecuadorian heritage but maybe not, anyway, he was a Nazi. I tried to talk sense to him and he was like I love everybody man. Which really does not jive with being a Nazi but Nazis are popular right now.