This is a hypothesis without any analysis. There is no logical reason to believe that satellites make revolutionary change impossible.
Absolutely, I’m just some person, but the point is that the world is so interconnected and defined that any shake up of any first world countries makes revolutionary change from things such as civil war extremely unlikely. Not to mention the other 1st world countries will insert their troops to wrestle power as well. Communication is faster than ever which means that responses and action can be faster than ever. It is a no win scenario without strong international relations, political understanding, and again - leadership.
With how strong of an influence DJT and the psyops had on Americans, would arresting DJT and more been seen as a political power play and caused a civil war then
Oh man, wouldn’t want to have open conflict! That would be terrible. Better to just let a fascist take over without any resistance.
That would be my position if I were un their shoes. An open conflict where the Democrats in charge have no choice but to use the U.S. military to fight off American citizens (trying to get DJT in power), or try to persuade Americans to see who DJT and their party really are, who are going to try to use the U.S. military to fight off American citizens, by choice. The former would have left many dead, and the latter, if won, would have saved many, along with possibility of being able to prosecute the troublemakers (DJT n Co). They completely failed - you say by choice because they’re on the same team, I say by psyops because there are external forces also trying to succeed (in their own way). Again, I do not believe that they are on the same conceptual team, but certainly the same sport with some of the same sponsors.
give me a quick list of what Republicans have done for America when they are in power
Ok, I like these, but damn how far the party has fallen from doing things for actual Americans like this; whereas the other cop has always been like this?
It’s not Democratic leadership that did those things. It was grassroots threats to legitimately disrupt the entire country. It’s always been this way. The 8-hour work day was won with general strikes that shut the country down. You don’t win by voting. You win by fighting. History has shown us this over and over and over again.
It also wasn’t the majority of Democrats fighting against these things, it was the majority of Republicans. Republicans (as you say, the bad cop) are obviously almost always against these laws. Ultimately it was and continues to be Democratic majority that signs these into law in most cases, especially in recent years. Though, I understand it doesn’t matter if it’s all a charade, the point of a Democratic system is that it should be We The People and the politicians respond to the people, in which Democrats have and usually do.
And yet, corporate profits are better under Democrats! Shocker, right?
This is both true but… tough. Corporate profits really sored during the Bush era in the early 2000s. Then we get Obama and Biden terms which seemed like healthy steady growth. The absolute biggest corporate profit jump comes from post-covid / AI bubble times under Biden. DJT is “tough” for corporations, but not because he / their administration, but because his whole purpose is to sow chaos, misdirection, and confusion.
Both parties are driven by the maintenance and expansion of global capitalism and they only give to the people as a concession
Yes - both parties support Capitalism. I support regulated Capitalism. We have been in a time of unregulated Capitalism for too long and it’s now capsizing the political structure meant to hold it together. I believe Capitalism itself is a byproduct of human evolution, will always exist in some form due to sociopathy and psychopathy (which I believe are evolutionary traits), and has to be regulated in some form. Since I believe it will always exist, and should consumerism win out over humanity, we’re likely doomed anyway. I embrace it but with the caveat that it has to be fought, but it’s too big to be fought by you, me, or grassroots, but from within the political system it runs on.
And the US vetoed the UN resolution condemning the glorification of Nazis under Obama and under Biden.
What does that mean exactly? The vote was like “Nazis are bad: Yes or No” and the U.S. was like “Nah”? Was it supposed to be like German laws that would fine individuals for their Nazism expressions or something? I don’t understand the point of the vote or what’s it’s impact was supposed to be, even after looking into it. It seems for all purposes, performative, and sponsored by Russia on some of the occasions?
It’s not a psyop. It’s America.
It’s a portion of undereducated America stricken from a system that’s been starving their education specifically for this purpose. These come from mostly Red states. I can’t imagine what hoops one would have to jump through to not realize that America is, and has been, a target from external hostile countries. The psyops used our unregulated social media and to pose as actual Americans and drive discussions specifically targeting those uneducated Americans. The endgoal (ofc in my opinion) is Oligarchy and finalized corporate power, though it’s my understanding you believe that this has been the case for a long time, but I believe that it’s been a growing issue and not the defacto.
The Americans states where there are diverse groups of people and educated people aren’t rooting for torturing immigrants or shooting protestors. These are the folx who weren’t targets of the psyops, because they’re more difficult to rally (for this particular side, not for a cause in similar fashion).
Just go research prisons and parole around the world. Compare with America. It’s a hellscape here.
Yeah? Is this all we’re comparing to places like Russia or China? It just boils down to prison systems and not their much longer stances against personal freedoms of expression, violence, genocide, bombings, and collusion? 250 years compared to centuries? Cynical sure, but I guess the U.S. had some catching up to do, but at least it’s making better progress than those equally large countries.
If that’s is to be true, then why not try to pick the fascist dominance that’s going to do the least harm?
Wow. I mean, if this is your position, you’re well and truly gone.
I think this is where we are, yes. I’m not sure how much further we can take our arguments as I understand your position but disagree on it’s compete integration of “good cop, bad cop” and how to fight it (the system we’re in). I do appreciate the discussion though; take care m8
Absolutely, I’m just some person, but the point is that the world is so interconnected and defined that any shake up of any first world countries makes revolutionary change from things such as civil war extremely unlikely. Not to mention the other 1st world countries will insert their troops to wrestle power as well. Communication is faster than ever which means that responses and action can be faster than ever. It is a no win scenario without strong international relations, political understanding, and again - leadership.
That would be my position if I were un their shoes. An open conflict where the Democrats in charge have no choice but to use the U.S. military to fight off American citizens (trying to get DJT in power), or try to persuade Americans to see who DJT and their party really are, who are going to try to use the U.S. military to fight off American citizens, by choice. The former would have left many dead, and the latter, if won, would have saved many, along with possibility of being able to prosecute the troublemakers (DJT n Co). They completely failed - you say by choice because they’re on the same team, I say by psyops because there are external forces also trying to succeed (in their own way). Again, I do not believe that they are on the same conceptual team, but certainly the same sport with some of the same sponsors.
Ok, I like these, but damn how far the party has fallen from doing things for actual Americans like this; whereas the other cop has always been like this?
It also wasn’t the majority of Democrats fighting against these things, it was the majority of Republicans. Republicans (as you say, the bad cop) are obviously almost always against these laws. Ultimately it was and continues to be Democratic majority that signs these into law in most cases, especially in recent years. Though, I understand it doesn’t matter if it’s all a charade, the point of a Democratic system is that it should be We The People and the politicians respond to the people, in which Democrats have and usually do.
This is both true but… tough. Corporate profits really sored during the Bush era in the early 2000s. Then we get Obama and Biden terms which seemed like healthy steady growth. The absolute biggest corporate profit jump comes from post-covid / AI bubble times under Biden. DJT is “tough” for corporations, but not because he / their administration, but because his whole purpose is to sow chaos, misdirection, and confusion.
Yes - both parties support Capitalism. I support regulated Capitalism. We have been in a time of unregulated Capitalism for too long and it’s now capsizing the political structure meant to hold it together. I believe Capitalism itself is a byproduct of human evolution, will always exist in some form due to sociopathy and psychopathy (which I believe are evolutionary traits), and has to be regulated in some form. Since I believe it will always exist, and should consumerism win out over humanity, we’re likely doomed anyway. I embrace it but with the caveat that it has to be fought, but it’s too big to be fought by you, me, or grassroots, but from within the political system it runs on.
What does that mean exactly? The vote was like “Nazis are bad: Yes or No” and the U.S. was like “Nah”? Was it supposed to be like German laws that would fine individuals for their Nazism expressions or something? I don’t understand the point of the vote or what’s it’s impact was supposed to be, even after looking into it. It seems for all purposes, performative, and sponsored by Russia on some of the occasions?
It’s a portion of undereducated America stricken from a system that’s been starving their education specifically for this purpose. These come from mostly Red states. I can’t imagine what hoops one would have to jump through to not realize that America is, and has been, a target from external hostile countries. The psyops used our unregulated social media and to pose as actual Americans and drive discussions specifically targeting those uneducated Americans. The endgoal (ofc in my opinion) is Oligarchy and finalized corporate power, though it’s my understanding you believe that this has been the case for a long time, but I believe that it’s been a growing issue and not the defacto.
The Americans states where there are diverse groups of people and educated people aren’t rooting for torturing immigrants or shooting protestors. These are the folx who weren’t targets of the psyops, because they’re more difficult to rally (for this particular side, not for a cause in similar fashion).
Yeah? Is this all we’re comparing to places like Russia or China? It just boils down to prison systems and not their much longer stances against personal freedoms of expression, violence, genocide, bombings, and collusion? 250 years compared to centuries? Cynical sure, but I guess the U.S. had some catching up to do, but at least it’s making better progress than those equally large countries.
I think this is where we are, yes. I’m not sure how much further we can take our arguments as I understand your position but disagree on it’s compete integration of “good cop, bad cop” and how to fight it (the system we’re in). I do appreciate the discussion though; take care m8