Republican President Donald Trump said on Sunday he was not joking about seeking a third presidential term, which is barred by the U.S. Constitution, but that it was too early to think about doing so.
Trump, who took office on January 20 for his second, non-consecutive White House term, has made vague allusions to seeking a third one but addressed it directly on Sunday in a telephone interview with NBC News.
“No, I’m not joking. I’m not joking,” Trump said, but “it is far too early to think about it.”
“There are, there are methods which you could do it, as you know,” he said. He declined to elaborate on any specific methods.
Yea he was the perfect candidate to win the 2008. & 2012 elections. I base that on the evidence that he won. breaking an 8 year losing streak. Now i think your criticism applies perfectly to Hillary clinton. I base that on evidence that she lost the 2016 election for not being progressive and populist enough.
I support most progressive causes, I’m starting to get really annoyed with progressives losing us elections because you’d rather have your way than a democratic result. Don’t like how centerist the median voter is? Well thats a you problem not a median voter problem. the third party voters, and non-voters are certianly to blame here. Third party votes were a vote for trump. None of you are progressive you’re active trump supporters.
Jesus. Saying a candidate is perfect, thus there was literally nothing they could have done or been better on… just because they won… is insane. Like, again, I am not saying Obama was terrible. He was fine. But fucking far from perfect.
Yea i just want to know who was a perfect candidate, who was a perfect president. Which president was better than obama and why? Or are you just unicorn hunting to divide the party. Like is that what you do just find something you dont like about a person and say ‘he’s not perfect so i will not vote’
Thats the vibes i get here. Biden was awful obama was okay, like who do you want running the country, point at a person i can learn about so i can figure out what progressive ideals are about. Seems like its just about hunting for perfection that doesn’t exist.
I mean idk if you know the word perfect.
This whole thing started cuz someone was saying progressives need a PERFECT candidate. We don’t. We just need someone who is not actively fighting AGAINST us. A DNC who is pro democracy, not suing to remove 3rd parties from ballots. Not attacking third parties. Someone willing to listen to constituents and adapt policy, plenty of extremely popular policies/positions. Like ranked choice/STAR/etc. voting, universal health care, get money out of politics, etc. I’m not asking for someone to kill all landlords or nationalize the top 100 companies or anything crazy.
Like I said, Obama was ok. He wasn’t perfect, but he at least was adaptable which is why plenty of people would vote for him. He wanted change, we need change, hell Trump won because he will change things. Not for the better, but people are stupid and want any change, since clearly what we currently have is not working. Biden and Clinton were both promising to basically keep things exactly the same, while actively fighting against progress and courting republicans. Kamala just Echoed Biden and also decided to adopt Republican border policy.
Sorry i guess my comment was directed at the person further up the line. I just don’t understand how someone could look at the political landscape of 2012, and come to the conclusion that there was a better candidate out there, but we just didn’t democracy hard enough!
In my mind, and in the face of republican authoritarianism and accelerationism. The perfect candidate to me is any warm body that prevents a republican take over. Now thats not really my political ideal, but thats a political reality. I totally get where you are coming from. I’m frusterated from this endless thread about hindsight rating Dem Presidents while the worst administration in the country is destroying us and our world order.
Also final point im trying to make is if someone has a 2028 candidate or a 2026 candidate whos a perfect progressive, im all ears.
I mean, like I said Obama was fine. He listened, which is great. That’s why he was my example. He wasn’t perfect, but he was good enough for everyone. I am fine with that. But Clinton and Biden and Harris have all pushed back against progressives and embraced republican shit and like… no. We need to get better as a party, not worse. People won’t vote for shit democrats, but the DNC refuses to learn that, and will actively fight to keep money in politics, keep old centrists in power, and fight against progressives.
And uh, AoC is a fairly popular democratic figure that supports progressive ideals. She’s not perfect, but I mean, she’s decent. If the DNC doesn’t spend 5x the legal limit of donations fighting against her like they did Bernie with their “victory fund” (aka ensure a Clinton victory by breaking campaign finance laws fund) she would have a pretty good chance. But… I doubt the DNC learns their lesson… ever.
Oh we need a better party for sure. No question there. Like i said ideals are extremely removed from the two party system. I love AoC I hope we give her a fair shot. She’s worked hard her whole career and if the firebrand we need. Honest and relatable.
Knowing all that you understand my worries about AoC and the median voter. The DNC would need to get behind her now and start branding hard for 4 years. There’s a lot that goes into getting a mainstream candidate elected, and there’s not much we can do to get some of less centrists re-branded in the face of fox news. I’m not sure the DNC can provide her with the support she needs to win an election, nor will they even endorse her for a senate seat. I would tho.
Ragging on the candidate that won the election is just illogical to me. Ragging on the party that can’t develop young talent is all fair game. Im here for it.
Ehh just sounds like the excuses they always come up with on why oh no we caaaantttttttt. Fox News is gonna call literally every single democrat a fucking communist it literally doesn’t matter. Just run someone who progresses the party. Stop caring about republicans & Fox News, and start worrying about having a party people care about enough to get off their ass and vote.
I know, but i mean i hate to be the one to say it, but its not just fox news viewer. a large number of american voters are too biased for a POC woman. it needs to be addressed as well as what progressive platforms poll the best with the center. Ways to frame progressive goals that reach people etc. We can totally do it, but i dont see a clear path for AOC to a whitehouse victory in this climate. I’d support what ever we needed to get there, but i think its kinda ignorant to ignore. One thing hillary and kamala had in common besides being competent politicians, was being women.
I think we need to put the party, the platforms, the voters and our candidates into a realistic perspective and not reflect on Obama and bidens short comings. Progressive policy should be easy to sell because it addresses the needs of many. We have a messaging problem, you dont need to convince the dems to come left you need to convince the independents your policies are better.