It’s not a big deal via terminal but for me and probably the average user, a decent update UI is superior. I want my computer to remind me like once a week and then update with one or two clicks. Updating via terminal does not appeal to me.
And this happens too. I get a little tray icon saying ‘do updates’ and I tap that and all my applications whether fwupd (firmware), flatpak or rpm updates are there and I click ‘go’, including the most recent nvidia drivers. In my case, KDE ‘discover’ does this for me. I’m so lazy as to not want to bother running the three terminal commands (dnf, fwupdmgr, and flatpak).
Meanwhile, under windows, I do that, but then it doesn’t do my firmware, so my hardware vendor has their own updater (which also suggests driver updates that Microsoft does not suggest), but if I use those then I still miss out on decent nvidia drivers, I need to go to nvidia to get those updates. And pretty much every application is then independently telling me time to update something or another in a never ending parade of ‘update me now’ icons in the tray.
Meanwhile it can be greatly mitigated in Windows by opening up a terminal and doing a winget update. Except it keeps offering up this one Office update that hangs with a blank terminal in my screen, and it still misses half the stuff…
Though it doesn’t work fully, and as it works it’s spewing windows on my screen, because so much of the windows ecosystem doesn’t believe in headless operation.
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
Teams is a giant turd but using it is a reality of working with a lot of companies so it’s nice it’s at least easy to install a slightly more functional version.
Would agree, but Wayland is still broke on nvidia 2060 mobile (got the laptop before I switched to Linux and it doesn’t have integrated graphics either *cough*HP*cough*) so I have to stick with X11 for now… *sigh* I really wanted to try out SwayFX and Hyprland too
Would agree, but Wayland is still broke on nvidia 2060 mobile
Frankly mint/wayland flat out does not work yet, combine that with the fact that cinnamon still does not have triple buffering for their desktop animations, and its a very annoying desktop experience for anyone coming from windows/mac where most of these issue were solved 20 years ago.
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
Also, updates.
“hey computer! Update!”
“Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?”
“y”
“ok… done!”
👌
It’s not a big deal via terminal but for me and probably the average user, a decent update UI is superior. I want my computer to remind me like once a week and then update with one or two clicks. Updating via terminal does not appeal to me.
And this happens too. I get a little tray icon saying ‘do updates’ and I tap that and all my applications whether fwupd (firmware), flatpak or rpm updates are there and I click ‘go’, including the most recent nvidia drivers. In my case, KDE ‘discover’ does this for me. I’m so lazy as to not want to bother running the three terminal commands (dnf, fwupdmgr, and flatpak).
Meanwhile, under windows, I do that, but then it doesn’t do my firmware, so my hardware vendor has their own updater (which also suggests driver updates that Microsoft does not suggest), but if I use those then I still miss out on decent nvidia drivers, I need to go to nvidia to get those updates. And pretty much every application is then independently telling me time to update something or another in a never ending parade of ‘update me now’ icons in the tray.
Meanwhile it can be greatly mitigated in Windows by opening up a terminal and doing a winget update. Except it keeps offering up this one Office update that hangs with a blank terminal in my screen, and it still misses half the stuff…
Getting me silenced by the mob of mods is just what a dirty Linux user would do.
Removed Comment: Windows has
winget upgrade --all. Fucking cultists.Though it doesn’t work fully, and as it works it’s spewing windows on my screen, because so much of the windows ecosystem doesn’t believe in headless operation.
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
There’s an app for that!
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoftteamsblog/microsoft-teams-is-now-available-on-linux/1056267
They discontinued that native app and have a kinda broken pwa. But open-source community delivers.
https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
I couldn’t imagine taking on the task of repackaging the Teams web client and signing up to fight Microsoft’s continual futzing around with things…
They’d be better off delivering a warm turd through your open window.
Teams is a giant turd but using it is a reality of working with a lot of companies so it’s nice it’s at least easy to install a slightly more functional version.
I have been harmed by this web page in a way that is too sacred to recover from. Dying now.
We shitpost on Lemmy and start flame wars about vi vs. emacs, X11 vs Wayland, sysvinit vs systemd, snaps vs flatpak, etc.
All of those wars have long since ended.
Neovim, Wayland, Systemd and Flatpak have won.
Nano/Micro/Pico gang will never back down!
In Emacs I can annotate pdfs.
who the fuck does that in a text editor??
Emacs has a text editor???
Tap for spoiler
Despite my joke, I’m on the Emacs side of this war.
/me eating popcorn as a nano user
KurtVonnegut does that
The war is over but battles still rage on. Some people really hate the concept of standardization.
Would agree, but Wayland is still broke on nvidia 2060 mobile (got the laptop before I switched to Linux and it doesn’t have integrated graphics either *cough*HP*cough*) so I have to stick with X11 for now… *sigh* I really wanted to try out SwayFX and Hyprland too
Frankly mint/wayland flat out does not work yet, combine that with the fact that cinnamon still does not have triple buffering for their desktop animations, and its a very annoying desktop experience for anyone coming from windows/mac where most of these issue were solved 20 years ago.
Sometimes I run the update command and there hasn’t been an update since yesterday. I think that’s pretty close.
“Welcome to Costco. I love you.”
I really wanted mr. Satya to watch my screen with Recall 😥
plus it makes you feel like a hacker for a few seconds
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“Hey computer, I don’t like when you ask for that confirmation, just do it”
“Oh,
-y, I got you”Removed by mod
Does it also update Firefox and Discord and the OS and my graphics card drivers and everything else?
Yes.
Two clicks with the update thingy on Mint, if I could never have to use the terminal I might be tempted to uninstall Windows completely.
New copypasta of 2025:
I use Arch btwI use Mint btwIt’s actually I use NixOS fwiw
Or MX Linux, for some reason it’s getting popular and I don’t know why
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
publish your scripts and you might save the next guy some hours 🙂