House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.
During a House Judiciary Committee meeting on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amendments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed “one big, beautiful bill.”
One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances. GOP lawmakers killed that amendment.
I literally addressed it in the next paragraph practically what are you even on about.
Tell that to the unions that felt Carter hadn’t done enough for them. Withholding their support and funding. They showed carter. He lost and the unions became irrelevant. And we had our first outright fascist in office with reagan. Tell that to all the people so uninfused with Al gore. He didn’t excite them enough he didn’t hold their hands enough despite having fantastic qualifications as a progressive and environmentalist. He just didn’t motivate the people and so we got our second fascist with Bush Jr. I could go on I mean literally what happened with Hillary Clinton yes she wasn’t inspirational no she wasn’t great but by that time so much damage had been done she was the best we could get unfortunately. And people chose Trump. And on and on and on.
We’ve had 50 years of people like yourself ignorantly trying to change things from the top down and failing. Hurting all of us. You spend decades organizing it a state level. You aren’t going to get this sort of s*** at the national level. That’s the point. Yes you have to hold your nose in the meantime. While you’re replacing all the jackasses that are the problem. But that is how you change it. Trying to force top-down change you’re just going to keep empowering fascists. I hope you’re enjoying the administration you helped.
Because people like you got everything they wanted at the national level and will fight your left and only your left to keep moving right.
I got nothing out of this election. I’m an anarchist, kiddo. I would like to see the national republican, Democrat and especially any aspirational Vanguard parties dissolved.
I never really advocated for a candidate either. I simply pointed out repeatedly that we would be getting either a Republican or a Democrat and we would prefer the democrat. I wasn’t wrong. Not that I care about being right. I would have loved to have been wrong. Living under a Harris Administration right now. I would gladly own up to the fact that my concerns about you all amplifying fascist and foreign propaganda. To pull Democrats down and giving the Republicans a path to Victory, was hyperbolic and uninformed. I bet you would have loved that too.
And yet, the wildly one-sided rhetoric you amplified. Not just amplified, but childishly harassed everyone who would point out what was going to happen, and did happen. Literally convinced many Palestinians to vote for the man who told Netanyahu to “finish it”. And for every single one of them that voted for Trump there were multiple that didn’t vote at all. That’s on you and people like yourself. All the more hilarious because you voted for Harris in the end as well. After you spend all that time attacking her and demotivating people from voting for her. You were played for a complete chump. And that sucks.
All acrimony aside. Honestly, I bet you and I agree more than we disagree. We all make mistakes. I dearly wish that Palestine had been one of the issues we had been voting on. It wasn’t, and that’s a tragedy. But the fact that you simply can’t own up to the fact that your sincere wishes for better things for Palestine. Were manipulated and used, along with the Democrats unforced errors. To cut the margins enough for trump to win. That’s the impasse here. You don’t have to acknowledge that anyone was right. Like I said, I’d gladly give up being right to be dissatisfied living under the Harris administration right now. Just acknowledge that you were used, that you’re aware you made a mistake. That going forward you won’t repeat it. If enough people like yourself did that. We might became a force to reckon with instead of a joke.
You’re blaming me for the loss Harris earned because I dared to criticize genocide on a platform full of pro-genocide centrists. I convinced none of them, least of all you. Face it, you just can’t abide any criticism whatsoever of whichever pro-genocide party you support.
and here we are, right where your childish drama got us. how’d that work out for you, giving trump the whitehouse?
huh? you excited about trump gaza? ho lee shit you showed those dead Palestinians what for.
what a hero
Blame everyone but the party that spent a whole year supporting genocide and screaming abuse at anyone who disagreed with it.
so you’re happy.
nice.
Why would I be happy? You’re getting the genocide you wanted and you’re blaming it on me.
No. I have no need to blame you of anything you are still visibly hypocritically unrepentant for. Even in this very thread.
And no I’m not criticizing you for criticizing them. That’s a straw man. They deserve criticism. What I’m criticizing you for is assisting the fascist media. And the fascists themselves. Placing the the blame for something that is a problem with the entire system and Society at large , effectively, solely on Biden and Harris. They absolutely deserve criticism. And so do you. The laser focus on just Biden and Harris, yes they were the ones in office at the time, was deafening. The absence of constant criticism for the system that made their stance politically expedient and necessary. The lack of criticism for Republicans who cheered on the genocide, literally made people think Republicans were better. Do you want me to post the link again? In the end, as it always has been, and always will be. Republicans get to be lawless, and Democrats must be perfect.
What ever minimal impact the ratchet effect has. It pales in the face of that simple fact. When you grow up and become an adult. Often you realize it was more about what you didn’t say than what you did. I hope you find that realization. We (not democrats, they’ll be fine) couldn’t afford that loss. And we certainly can’t afford any more.
I’ll never see you breathe a word of unprompted criticism for the biden administration or for netanyahu and his genocide. Ever.
Bullshit. Anything that wasn’t vociferous support for the bidenyahu genocide was helping trump, according to people who were fine with trump winning as long as it meant their precious genocide continued unabated.
I blame people who sell weapons for genocide for selling weapons for genocide.
I blame all netanyahu’s simps in the US. Not just biden and harris. But when it comes right down to it, their administration actively assisted an ongoing genocide by providing it with arms, all the while claiming that they were working on a ceasefire that it’s clear that neither they nor any of their supporters, especially you, wanted.
If their stance was politically expedient, they might have won. They made an unpopular stand for centrists’ only policy and you ate it up because you love the results. Lots of dead Palestinians and you don’t have to fight for anything for at least four years. And you get a shaky justification for blaming anyone who dared to be upset at your genocide.
I criticized democrats when their support for your genocide came up. On a fledgling platform full of centrists who oppose progressives but not genocide. Who is it do you think I forced into the idiotic belief that republicans were better? The only people pretending that was a thing are people who don’t want their genocide to end until completion, regardless of which party completes it for them.
Yes, the party using its power and influence to support genocide and hold back anything you lie about wanting pales in comparison to one gadfly on a platform full of centrists that only get upset when someone tells them that genocide isn’t the greatest thing ever.
Condescension is how centrists react when someone wants to hold them accountable for their unwavering support for genocide and only genocide.
Then you’ve not actually read much of what I’ve posted. That’s on you.
Not at all. But I expect childish bad faith responses from you. Seriously all you had to say was “yeah things got out of hand, I made a mistake attacking everyone who disagreed with me. And let myself be manipulated by my emotions” and I would have been like I think we can all understand and relate to that respect, out. Instead I’m going to have to keep calling you out as the childish hypocrite you are. Something I would rather not do. But there’s no choice.