The march to Nazism takes another step

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Just a quick reminder that the US Supreme Court affirmed the federal government’s right to sterilize citizens in Buck v. Bell and it’s never been walked back.

    So that’s cool.

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      It seems that Trump and Kennedy are going to lose their balls then. ✂️ A minute of silence. 😔

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        IQ tests don’t measure intelligence. It measures how good you are at passing an IQ test.

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          Every tests measures first and foremost how well one takes that test. There are many IQ tests with varying usefulness.

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            Nope. IQ measures how Western you are.

            We cannot test intelligence. That’s what the creator of the IQ test concluded after the eugenics championed their attempt to do so.

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              The problem is not so much the test itself, which can be useful sometimes, but the idea that ‘intelligence’ can be fully encapsulated by a single number that is both immutable and discrete.

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              Sorry, but that is only true for a narrow, archaic band of the term IQ. Though I admit that within that narrow interpretation, you’re right. But there have been many tests devised since then to attempt to address those concerns.

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                  Maybe, in varying degrees, but also some success. Though intelligence itself is tough to pin down in the broader sense, there are some aspects of the measurement that are useful in both clinical settings and in research.

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                    Sure. I’m not saying they aren’t useful in a clinical setting. Just that they don’t measure intelligence.

                    It can definitely be useful to measure how much knowledge someone has of Western culture

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            It’s not. All you can do is measure culturally relevant knowledge. That’s what we learned

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              That’s true. How can we possibly measure logic if logic follows the characteristics of 1900’s classical logic? Does that translate to real intelligence or the ability to get things done? I don’t think so. What if the person just don’t want to get a IQ test? All the more, what if their qualities are not measured by finding out how many balls are inside a cube? I think classical logic doesn’t translate to intelligence.

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      If there is a civil war, I look forward to shitty rulings like Buck vs Bell to be overturned by the good guys. This kind of shit is a black mark on human decency.

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          I am not certain of victory at all, it is just that surrendering in advance has a guaranteed outcome. “Elbows up” has risks, but gives a chance for things to turn out decently.