• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    So, like you do realize that prior to our physically entering the war, we ramped up production of war material and basically supplied the allies?

    Like, I do respect Canada’s decision, don’t think for a second I’m diminishing that. But if we hadn’t spent time ramping our industrial out put, the allies very probably would have lost. Pearl Harbor gave us a kick in the pants, though we were already building our military to enter. you don’t go from a tiny, basically non existent military to 2.2 million strong overnight.

    edit to add: it’s a lot easier to get 11 million people to agree politically than 130 million people. there’s simply more inertia. we can debate about what should have happened, and such. the reality is that we did enter the war indirectly.

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      Outside of American history, a LOT was happening in the second world war. You may not have been exposed to that education.

      Remember that before the US entered the war, it demanded all of the UKs patents. It was a trove worth absolutely billions back then. Mercenaries.

      The curriculum you may have seen may typically paint the US as being the single-handed victor to a righteous battle, as the trend goes, but they missed a lot in their summaries.

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        The curriculum you may have seen may typically paint the US as being the single-handed victor to a righteous battle, as the trend goes, but they missed a lot in their summaries.

        I’m not saying that’s not true. But it’s equally unfair to say that Americans weren’t contributing to the overall war effort until 41/42 when we entered with troops. the soviets and UK in particular would absolutely have collapsed if we weren’t involved. Also… I can’t find anything indicating the the US demanded UK patents, and certainly not all the patents.

        What I am seeing (and what matches what I’ve seen before,) is that there was a mutual transfer of technologies that were largely strategic in choice. it was definitely uneven- some of it was a simple matter that we needed to know how to build the stuff you all wanted. Can’t exactly make torpex without the formula for torpex, right?

        I suspect your curriculum was every bit as biased as mine. Which is the normal for history class. most places gloss over the, ah, troublesome, aspects. Germany is one of the very few places I know of that makes an active effort to not.