The console

First thing I thought taking it out of the box is that this thing feels really solid and a little heavier than I expected. We have definitely returned to Wii era Nintendo build quality. Everything feels really premium all around, which it should for the price. More in line with the PS5 in terms of build. The stand is very secure, which was a big pain point for Switch 1. Screen is a whole load of mid-range - not bad, but not anything to write home about either, it’s still fairly good and 90% of people are going to be happy with it. The increased size is also a big upgrade, since it makes playing on the go much more comfortable (similar size to Steam Deck screen).

Joy Con 2

These things have such smooth sticks, it’s something you need to try to understand, but they just feel so nice. The magnets too feel very very secure in attaching them to the console. However, I do wish Nintendo rounded the backs a little bit on the console side, as if you’re not careful you might pinch your finger a bit when they snap on. The included grip is alright, but the flat top does make it slightly less comfortable than the Joy Con 1 grip. Mouse mode works better than you expect, very close to a PC mouse in terms of tracking, although you need to get used to how you need to grip it in order to not topple them over.

Performance

Obviously can vary game to game, so will keep this brief. All the Switch 2 games I have (Breath Of The Wild Switch 2 edition, Welcome Tour, Mario Kart World) run super smooth in 4K60 mode, no complaints here. Welcome Tour also ran in 120FPS mode fine (although my monitor only lets me do 120FPS over HDMI at 1080p, so didn’t test much more than that). Switch 1 games load way faster (at most 2 or 3 second load times for anything in Smash Bros, and the gate in the monastery in Fire Emblem Three Houses instantly opens rather than taking multiple seconds on Switch 1). Frame times are also much more consistent, it will keep games at their FPS caps all the time.

Accessories

Cases

The carrying case is just that, a carrying case, nothing special. Hard construction to keep it safe, soft inside, and some space for some game cards. The All in One case is a lot more interesting, since it lets you take the whole set up anywhere you go. Also quite sturdy, and well made. Size is good, and there’s a big flap on top with a foam (?) piece sticking out to prevent your dock from getting damaged.

Pro Controller

This controller is probably the best controller I have ever used. Remember how I said the sticks on the Joy Cons were smooth? These are smoooooooooth, they feel so so so good. The return to centre is a very good action too. Even better, they’ve dampened the sound on the edge of the material around the sticks, so even when you are playing hard the controller is very quiet, compared to the plastic on plastic loudness of a lot of previous controllers. The materials are so nice. It’s a soft touch plastic all around that feels so refined. GL and GR buttons are a welcome addition. It’s difficult to put into words how good this controller is, but if you get the opportunity, you need to try it. The only disappointment is that it (at least for now) doesn’t work on my Linux PC over Bluetooth, although we might see support soon as controllers get into the hands of driver developers. USB support isn’t implemented properly yet either, although it does show up unlike Bluetooth. We’ll probably have to wait for Valve to release a Steam controller configuration update for it to start working properly over USB in Steam games. When they do, I will use it. This controller is amazing.

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    Nice write up. I agree the build quality of the handheld itself feels good.

    All the Switch 2 games I have (Breath Of The Wild Switch 2 edition, Welcome Tour, Mario Kart World) run super smooth in 4K60 mode, no complaints here.

    I will say anecdotally I noticed the frame rate in MK World absolutely tanked once we went up from 2 players to 3 in local multiplayer. YMMV.

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      I’ll probably give that a try when I can then, since I only did up to two players locally as well as online Knockout Tour. I wouldn’t be surprised if it went down to 30FPS instead of 60 in 3 or 4 player modes considering how much is on screen.

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    You said it’s a little heavier than expected - how would you compare the weight to a Steam Deck? I find the Steam Deck quite heavy, but the ergonomics of the grips help massively. In comparison the Switch 1 wasn’t great to hold without a grip case in my opinion, but because it was so light that wasn’t a huge problem. I worry that the Switch 2 would be a bit uncomfortable to hold after a while if it’s a bit heavier and doesn’t have an ergonomic grip.

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      Took a peek to the specs:

      • Deck: 640g
      • Switch 1: 400g
      • Switch 2: 535g

      So it’s about halfway between the OG Switch and the Deck in terms of weight.

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      I only got to try a Deck for a bit, so I unfortunately can’t do a proper direct comparison. I would say it’s a little bit lighter than the Deck, while being a bit thinner. The backs of the Joy Cons have a better shape that makes it feel more secure in my hand compared to Switch 1.

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        That’s good to hear! I’m glad the shape of the joycons has been improved. I’d possibly be tempted to get a case anyway, to add more volume around the palm (rather than all the weight resting on the bottom of my hands). But hopefully I’ll get a chance to try one out at some point and see how they feel :3

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      I’m not OP but I did try to gage the weight. It does seem like the switch 2 is close to the same weight. With joy cons it might actually be a bit heavier than the deck. The switch 2 and joycons are bigger than the switch 1, so it does change the ergonomics a bit, but they are still the same shape and all that.

      My deck is near the first-generation LCDs so, I don’t know how it compares to a steamdeck oled or newer lcd gens. Hope that helps a little.

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    How is the d-pad on the new Pro controller?

    I just connected old Pro controller and not only does it not wake Switch 2 from sleep, I was reminded very quickly how ridiculously bad the d-pad is on that thing. Given how expensive Pro 2 controller is, especially compared to 8bitdo Ultimate, that d-pad better be Gameboy-level accurate.

    In other controller related findings my very old 8bitdo SN30 Pro+ doesn’t connect and there’s no firmware update (there is one for new models though). For now I’m using Mayflash X adapter with Dual Shock 4 but I’m being driven mad by the location of USB ports on Switch docks and how bad that dongle looks.

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      how ridiculously bad the d-pad is on that thing

      I’m still butthurt by this 😂 The Switch 1 Pro Controller wasn’t cheap either. And how that d-pad passed QA and testing is beyond me. Nintendo invented and perfected the d-pad in the 1980’s, and they go out and make this joke of a d-pad and sell it at a premium price.

      I’m hoping there’ll be an update for the older 8bitdo controllers soon. I have an SN30 Pro and a Pro 2. Once it comes out, we’ll hopefully have it posted in this community.

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        I checked with Tetris 99 forums and they say the d-pad is good. I cried all the way to the store and back because that’s basically two Xbox controllers in price but I can confirm that this controller is really really good. Still feel scammed about digital triggers but at least I can power up my console from the couch.

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          I was miffed about the digital triggers at first, but it makes sense for Nintendo’s main titles. In Mario Kart and Smash, for example, you need a quick and snappy button input for ZL and ZR for things like drifting or shielding, and an analogue trigger would take more time to press down. Still, for use outside of the Switch 2 it’s not ideal. Hopefully for games that can use analogue triggers on the Switch 2 we see more support for the GameCube controller, since we have the new Bluetooth version for Switch Online.

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      It feels decent enough for me, a bit better than Switch 1 Pro Controller. You probably shouldn’t take D pad related info from me though, considering I somehow liked the D pad substitute on the original Joy Cons.