• Doomsider@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    13 hours ago

    She is not a bystander in this. She was the procurer, the groomer, the madam of child prostitutes.

    There is no getting out for her, she should be serving life no questions asked. To think that these sick fucks are even talking about pardoning her is a bridge too far.

    We should be stringing POTUS up at this point as the chimo they are!

  • KingBoo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    16 hours ago

    She’s not going to die.

    She’s only going to mention democrats, Trump will give her a full pardon.

    Trump will continuously repeat that she would’ve implicated him if he was on the list.

    He will then go on to state that any photo evidence is the product of liberal AI.

    He will beat this drum until he dies or gets bored. Nothing will make him leave office now.

    • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      14 hours ago

      I still feel like not all the base will fall in line if he pardons but what do I know… I am not happy with the world the way it is anymore.

    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      13 hours ago

      Trump will give her a full pardon.

      That’s Plan B.

      Plan A is for her to appeal to SCOTUS in the hopes that POTUS - Paedophile Of The United States - can manipulate the court into doing it for him.

  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    16 hours ago

    Donald Westlake wrote a great novel years ago called Help I Am Being Held Prisoner. In the book, the main character gets sent to prison for a practical joke gone wrong. He happens to fall in with a group of prisoners who, it turns out, have an escape tunnel to the outside. Rather than using it to actually escape, which would expose the existence of the tunnel and subject them to a manhunt, they instead use it to go out and about in the real world while making sure they’re back in the prison just for morning and evening roll call. That way, they serve out their sentences while still being able to live life and commit more crimes to fund the entire operation.

    I always wonder if a high-profile, obvious intelligence asset like Maxwell is given a similar situation in federal prison. Maybe she’s actually able to live a comfortable life somewhere nearby in anonymity, and they just trot her out in the prison once in a while for show. She could spend her free time hanging out with Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Jeffery Epstein (just kidding - possibly).

  • rozodru@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    18 hours ago

    I don’t think anyone is killing her. She met with the DOJ and Trumps lawyer or former lawyer or whatever last week and then suddenly, yesterday, she submits an appeal to the SC. they pretty much told her “because of optics and how it would look to our fascist moronic base we won’t pardon you BUT if you submit an appeal we’ll ensure it goes through”

    Terms of the deal is once she’s out she reveals all the democrats and other left leaning individuals that were “on” the island.

    If they wanted her dead, she’d be dead already. OR (puts on my tin foil hat) they tell her no pardon cause they can’t, but sure go to the SC and appeal we’ll “make it happen, trust us” and then they tell the SC “lol, no man we’re going to kill her but want it to look like suicide again so tell her no dice and then we’ll kill her and say she killed herself cause she lost her appeal” or something stupid like that.

    Unfortunately in this current climate either option is a very valid and likely possibility.

  • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    20 hours ago

    Why would she die? All she has to do is say Trump is innocent and she will get a pardon. Instead of 20 years prison or getting killed, she can have a happy life in freedom by just lying about Trump’s involvement.

    • rhombus@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      18 hours ago

      I know Trump is tremendously stupid, but even he must realize that her dying after signing off on a list of names and/or testifying looks really bad. Even (some of) his base is so riled up right now that they may not accept the usually “Obama did it”.

      • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        18 hours ago

        Hey, so far he managed to get away with everything, he has no boundaries, no moral compass and a fan base who see him as a god. He already dropped he was thinking of giving her a pardon, probably to motivate her to keep her mouth shut. He has surrounded himself with loads of yes-men, he’s actively fighting his opposition without caring about the law, he even went against court orders. The guy is above the law and can do whatever the fuck he wants, and he knows that.

        • rhombus@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          13 hours ago

          You make a good point. Even if this were the line that his base can’t cross, a decade of unconditional adulation on top of his obvious mental decline means he’s going to do whatever the hell he wants, and what he wants is completely unpredictable.

  • ruuster13@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    Race to be first; a virtue in stone. Can’t wait for “she’s dead” to bring out the bone

    But if you don’t ask for her pussy speed zone your fate’s decided - forever alone

    “Next week or so” in unison they stroke

    Which of their fluids does she really evoke?

    So many ready to bust out “she’s dead!” More than she sent to Innocent’s bed.

    The vitriol’s earned but so often spat

    Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?

    • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 hours ago

      You know I’ve read Frost, Poe, and Shakespeare. I appreciate your mastery of the English language, but for the love of God it seems like you are trying to claim Trump is innocent. Clear that up for me?

      • ruuster13@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 hours ago

        I left in a few “misinterpretables” that function as a Rorschach test. That one, however, was unintentional.

        Perhaps you’ve taken the test in the end that hid behind the one I did intend.

  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    1 day ago

    If they wanted it, she’d be dead already. There’s more going on than two or three people can run.

    I’m curious what the regime would be doing if this hadn’t blown up so spectacularly. I think the regime has a double edge here. They are now utilizing this opportunity to distract fully from other human rights abuses and the economic flagellation we’re enduring.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      1 day ago

      they’re going to get her to drop the dirt on democrats or politically inconvenient people but stay silent on republicans.

          • D_C@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            20 hours ago

            There’s no might about it. She’ll definitely be making shit up.

            My question is once she’s got the pardon then can it be revoked?

            • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 hours ago

              Unlikely, unless SCOTUS would rule it is somehow unconstitutional, which this SCOTUS is unlikely to do that.

              If during Nixon US wasn’t dumb and did not allow blanket pardons and only allow pardon after conviction.

              A lot of shenanigans being done wouldn’t be possible.

              I think trunk might be trying to see if he can persuade SCOUTUS to change/drop her sentence (he would love this, because then he can say it wasn’t him, but it is clear that she submitted this after seeing his lawyer)

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp27XI1TA

              If that won’t work he will maybe try the pardon, and at least (not sure if things will change anything though) the pardon can’t be used for any future crimes. So if she lies, it would have to be after she does it. He likely would withhold the pardon until very end though, because of a backlash, which I’m sure Maxwell wouldn’t be happy. Also if he would die in office that would be devastating to her as she might lose it.

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 day ago

    But she has to be alive so she can openly talk about all the non-MAGA child diddlers (fantastic, but definitely a political move that will be eaten up by Americans [hehehe] and move the country more into the red zone) and how she was just going along with things and felt pressured? Maybe. Let’s wait and see!

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    That’s the craziest part, she doesn’t just know from Epstein, she’s said for decades her father’s death was a hit, and he was ridiculously deep in spywork for Israel and other countries as well as a litany of financial crimes/fraud.

    Realistically, the only reason she’d say what Trump wants is if they threatened to Epstein her if she didn’t.

    It’s the only reason she’d say it knowing they’re likely to kill her after. This is all just buying time.

    Quick edit:

    Also, wasn’t there something about her being a big Wikipedia editor?

    It’s one of those things that’s hard to phrase in a search, but I think I read it once years ago.

  • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 day ago

    I believe that the only reason she didn’t share Epstein’s fate is that she gave over access to his stash of insurance blackmail.