She is not a bystander in this. She was the procurer, the groomer, the madam of child prostitutes.
There is no getting out for her, she should be serving life no questions asked. To think that these sick fucks are even talking about pardoning her is a bridge too far.
We should be stringing POTUS up at this point as the chimo they are!
She’s not going to die.
She’s only going to mention democrats, Trump will give her a full pardon.
Trump will continuously repeat that she would’ve implicated him if he was on the list.
He will then go on to state that any photo evidence is the product of liberal AI.
He will beat this drum until he dies or gets bored. Nothing will make him leave office now.
I’m more a fan of harping on what I’d like to see happen than apathy
I still feel like not all the base will fall in line if he pardons but what do I know… I am not happy with the world the way it is anymore.
Trump will give her a full pardon.
That’s Plan B.
Plan A is for her to appeal to SCOTUS in the hopes that POTUS - Paedophile Of The United States - can manipulate the court into doing it for him.
Donald Westlake wrote a great novel years ago called Help I Am Being Held Prisoner. In the book, the main character gets sent to prison for a practical joke gone wrong. He happens to fall in with a group of prisoners who, it turns out, have an escape tunnel to the outside. Rather than using it to actually escape, which would expose the existence of the tunnel and subject them to a manhunt, they instead use it to go out and about in the real world while making sure they’re back in the prison just for morning and evening roll call. That way, they serve out their sentences while still being able to live life and commit more crimes to fund the entire operation.
I always wonder if a high-profile, obvious intelligence asset like Maxwell is given a similar situation in federal prison. Maybe she’s actually able to live a comfortable life somewhere nearby in anonymity, and they just trot her out in the prison once in a while for show. She could spend her free time hanging out with Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Jeffery Epstein (just kidding - possibly).
instead use it to go out and about in the real world while making sure they’re back in the prison just for morning and evening roll
Are you slyly referring to this?
No, I wasn’t referencing anything other than the plot of the Westlake novel. But the tidbit you mention certainly gives additional credence to the concept of an imprisonment that is not really a full imprisonment like normal people get.
I have posed the same question to a few RL friends… Alot of people question if Epstein really killed himself or if he was blatantly assasinated in Prison… I ask if he is just living on a 250 million dollar yacht in international waters with no change in lifestyle other than not going in public anymore…
I always wonder if a high-profile, obvious intelligence asset like Maxwell is given a similar situation in federal prison.
Maxwell is not an intelligence asset. And people just might recognize a globally famous heinous criminal being out and about.
She has “hidden” before.
August 2019: Epstein is found dead in his prison cell while awaiting trial
2 July 2020: Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested by the FBI at her New Hampshire home. She was tracked down by the FBI using data from her mobile phone.
I don’t think anyone is killing her. She met with the DOJ and Trumps lawyer or former lawyer or whatever last week and then suddenly, yesterday, she submits an appeal to the SC. they pretty much told her “because of optics and how it would look to our fascist moronic base we won’t pardon you BUT if you submit an appeal we’ll ensure it goes through”
Terms of the deal is once she’s out she reveals all the democrats and other left leaning individuals that were “on” the island.
If they wanted her dead, she’d be dead already. OR (puts on my tin foil hat) they tell her no pardon cause they can’t, but sure go to the SC and appeal we’ll “make it happen, trust us” and then they tell the SC “lol, no man we’re going to kill her but want it to look like suicide again so tell her no dice and then we’ll kill her and say she killed herself cause she lost her appeal” or something stupid like that.
Unfortunately in this current climate either option is a very valid and likely possibility.
fingers hovering over the “w” “a” and “s” keys
Why would she die? All she has to do is say Trump is innocent and she will get a pardon. Instead of 20 years prison or getting killed, she can have a happy life in freedom by just lying about Trump’s involvement.
I know Trump is tremendously stupid, but even he must realize that her dying after signing off on a list of names and/or testifying looks really bad. Even (some of) his base is so riled up right now that they may not accept the usually “Obama did it”.
Hey, so far he managed to get away with everything, he has no boundaries, no moral compass and a fan base who see him as a god. He already dropped he was thinking of giving her a pardon, probably to motivate her to keep her mouth shut. He has surrounded himself with loads of yes-men, he’s actively fighting his opposition without caring about the law, he even went against court orders. The guy is above the law and can do whatever the fuck he wants, and he knows that.
You make a good point. Even if this were the line that his base can’t cross, a decade of unconditional adulation on top of his obvious mental decline means he’s going to do whatever the hell he wants, and what he wants is completely unpredictable.
Race to be first; a virtue in stone. Can’t wait for “she’s dead” to bring out the bone
But if you don’t ask for her pussy speed zone your fate’s decided - forever alone
“Next week or so” in unison they stroke
Which of their fluids does she really evoke?
So many ready to bust out “she’s dead!” More than she sent to Innocent’s bed.
The vitriol’s earned but so often spat
Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
You know I’ve read Frost, Poe, and Shakespeare. I appreciate your mastery of the English language, but for the love of God it seems like you are trying to claim Trump is innocent. Clear that up for me?
Thanks for highlighting. I had to get an llm to translate the poem for me.
I left in a few “misinterpretables” that function as a Rorschach test. That one, however, was unintentional.
Perhaps you’ve taken the test in the end that hid behind the one I did intend.
If they wanted it, she’d be dead already. There’s more going on than two or three people can run.
I’m curious what the regime would be doing if this hadn’t blown up so spectacularly. I think the regime has a double edge here. They are now utilizing this opportunity to distract fully from other human rights abuses and the economic flagellation we’re enduring.
they’re going to get her to drop the dirt on democrats or politically inconvenient people but stay silent on republicans.
Let’s not forget that whatever she says is still not the list.
She might even make shit up to stay alive.
There’s no might about it. She’ll definitely be making shit up.
My question is once she’s got the pardon then can it be revoked?
Unlikely, unless SCOTUS would rule it is somehow unconstitutional, which this SCOTUS is unlikely to do that.
If during Nixon US wasn’t dumb and did not allow blanket pardons and only allow pardon after conviction.
A lot of shenanigans being done wouldn’t be possible.
I think trunk might be trying to see if he can persuade SCOUTUS to change/drop her sentence (he would love this, because then he can say it wasn’t him, but it is clear that she submitted this after seeing his lawyer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp27XI1TA
If that won’t work he will maybe try the pardon, and at least (not sure if things will change anything though) the pardon can’t be used for any future crimes. So if she lies, it would have to be after she does it. He likely would withhold the pardon until very end though, because of a backlash, which I’m sure Maxwell wouldn’t be happy. Also if he would die in office that would be devastating to her as she might lose it.
But she has to be alive so she can openly talk about all the non-MAGA child diddlers (fantastic, but definitely a political move that will be eaten up by Americans [hehehe] and move the country more into the red zone) and how she was just going along with things and felt pressured? Maybe. Let’s wait and see!
Has she done anything for them yet?
She’s not spilled any beans yet (Democrat or Republican)
Another “suicide” Donny?
That’s the craziest part, she doesn’t just know from Epstein, she’s said for decades her father’s death was a hit, and he was ridiculously deep in spywork for Israel and other countries as well as a litany of financial crimes/fraud.
Realistically, the only reason she’d say what Trump wants is if they threatened to Epstein her if she didn’t.
It’s the only reason she’d say it knowing they’re likely to kill her after. This is all just buying time.
Quick edit:
Also, wasn’t there something about her being a big Wikipedia editor?
It’s one of those things that’s hard to phrase in a search, but I think I read it once years ago.
There was some “evidence” that she was a reddit power user. I had forgotten about it until just now, so I haven’t looked back into any of these claims or followed any of it since then, but here is a thread:
/r/conspiracy and “here is the evidence”
😅😂🤣😂
Oh for sure, and further down in the thread they try to link her to the deaths of Aaron Schwartz and (somehow) Kurt Cobain. I’m not trying to say this is correct at all. Just responding to the question about her being a big Wikipedia editor.
Edit: here’s a hacker news thread that claims to debunk the theory
Yep, that’s what it was lol
She was a power of on reddit.
You somehow forgot a whole word.
wikipedia already has her epitath waiting
I’ve already got my “was” copied and ready to rock.
I believe that the only reason she didn’t share Epstein’s fate is that she gave over access to his stash of insurance blackmail.
Or she was smart enough to let it known she has a dead man’s switch with said blackmail
at least until shes more trouble than its worth and the people on the epstein list, including trump decided to end her.