it’s more common to portray jews as rats. like i get where you’re coming from, but i think they picked what they picked to avoid the antisemitic dog whistle. that’s just my read though as a dude with curly hair, a big nose, and sensitivity to “is this person hating me for my jewish ancestry”
A whole range of animals have been used for that (also, the kraken), but pigs left a nasty taste for me because a very common insult for Jews by German fascists has been (and still is) “jew sod” (“Judensau”).
for sure. that’s like… kind of a genuine challenge with looking for and understanding antisemitism is that how it presents itself changes through the eras. but in our current age, i think people are more likely to associate pigs with capitalism and anti-jewishness than with jews. like. i think it’s important and good that we’re having these conversations so we can understand the current status of anti semitism especially as israeli backed organizations water down these things by applying the term antisemitism to too many things.
and as you say, there’s a major aspect of regionality. antisemitism looks different depending on the place
You know, you can have more than one discussion at once and anti-semitism is still a thing despite Israel’s war on Palestine, and unfortunately, these two topics intersect at certain points.
of course it is, there are combatants on both sides and genocides can happen amidst a war.
So all members of a nation should shut up because their government sucks? We are some kind of monolith because of a detail in our passports? No. I didn‘t vote for them.
removing nuance helps not a single palestinian and isolates people who are experiencing hate against them to the only side that says there is hate, and that’s a group that brandishes that hate to perpetuate more hate. jews who are focused on doikyat need to be able to talk to their peers who are scared about what they are scared of in order to direct them to help the oppressed people of palestine and understand that zionism will fuel that hate against them rather than protect them. that is a delicate conversation and denying that only helps the zionist. it may be simple for you because you do not require deprogramming, but for us we have to assess things and pull apart how the media like the new york times and the bbc manipulates us based on the fears we fear. we have to understand the dog whistles of the zionists and the anti-semites and deconstruct them. the reason for this is that anti-semites and zionists preach the same message: there is no place for jews here. by creating a black and white binary view of the influences on our outlook we create a situation where one persons binary doesn’t match another binary. these have been the tools of division for 20k years. the real way forward is to make clear that what you want is a world safe for all who live on it, and what you are against is hate based ideologies. when a jew says they are experiencing a rise in hatred in their day to day life take a moment to acknowlege that this is real and that it’s israel who’s driving this fear and benefits from it.
And here I thought they used it because it’s tradition to portray Jews as pigs for European anti-semites for centuries now.
it’s more common to portray jews as rats. like i get where you’re coming from, but i think they picked what they picked to avoid the antisemitic dog whistle. that’s just my read though as a dude with curly hair, a big nose, and sensitivity to “is this person hating me for my jewish ancestry”
A whole range of animals have been used for that (also, the kraken), but pigs left a nasty taste for me because a very common insult for Jews by German fascists has been (and still is) “jew sod” (“Judensau”).
for sure. that’s like… kind of a genuine challenge with looking for and understanding antisemitism is that how it presents itself changes through the eras. but in our current age, i think people are more likely to associate pigs with capitalism and anti-jewishness than with jews. like. i think it’s important and good that we’re having these conversations so we can understand the current status of anti semitism especially as israeli backed organizations water down these things by applying the term antisemitism to too many things.
and as you say, there’s a major aspect of regionality. antisemitism looks different depending on the place
this stops the famine in Gaza and Palestinian babies getting decapitated by Israeli bombs how?
You know, you can have more than one discussion at once and anti-semitism is still a thing despite Israel’s war on Palestine, and unfortunately, these two topics intersect at certain points.
lemmy lacks all sense of nuance
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165443
Ah yes now is the time to be nuanced and cautious /s
removing nuance helps not a single palestinian and isolates people who are experiencing hate against them to the only side that says there is hate, and that’s a group that brandishes that hate to perpetuate more hate. jews who are focused on doikyat need to be able to talk to their peers who are scared about what they are scared of in order to direct them to help the oppressed people of palestine and understand that zionism will fuel that hate against them rather than protect them. that is a delicate conversation and denying that only helps the zionist. it may be simple for you because you do not require deprogramming, but for us we have to assess things and pull apart how the media like the new york times and the bbc manipulates us based on the fears we fear. we have to understand the dog whistles of the zionists and the anti-semites and deconstruct them. the reason for this is that anti-semites and zionists preach the same message: there is no place for jews here. by creating a black and white binary view of the influences on our outlook we create a situation where one persons binary doesn’t match another binary. these have been the tools of division for 20k years. the real way forward is to make clear that what you want is a world safe for all who live on it, and what you are against is hate based ideologies. when a jew says they are experiencing a rise in hatred in their day to day life take a moment to acknowlege that this is real and that it’s israel who’s driving this fear and benefits from it.