Her statement:
Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza… What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue. I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end… I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.
The author says she wrong and we shouldn’t give them any arms… Which I agree with.
But MTG’s amendment apparently defunded Israel’s defense, but let them keep offense?
And yeah…
That sounds more in line with what MTG wants in this genocide: she wants both sides to suffer massive civilian casualties.
That’s obviously just going to make everything worse.
Quick edit:
Website is for a Koch funded think tank with the goal of America ignoring foreign conflicts…
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quincy-institute-for-responsible-statecraft-bias-and-credibility/
The institute is funded through contributions from philanthropic donors; some well-known donors include the Open Society Foundations, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Stand Together Trust, which is associated with the libertarian-leaning Koch network.
Can we please stop listening to billionaires who say we should stop liking progressives?
Any lessening of military aid to Israel is a step in the right direction at this point. If they have less free defense then they have to move spending, potentially offense spending, to defense. If this is all we can do currently, I don’t know why people wouldn’t vote for it. We should still fight to cut off their offense aid, but at least there’s some movement. I don’t think we should be giving any military aid to a country committing a genocide. I think the “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” applies here.
Right…
Like I said, stopping all weapons is the right answer.
But if you’re going to defend bombs or missile defense…
It makes zero sense to only remove defense unless your goal is more death on both sides rather than lessening the current amount of deaths.
It makes zero sense to only remove defense unless your goal is more death on both sides rather than lessening the current amount of deaths.
I think that the logic here, if anything in Greene’s head could pass for logic, is that limiting Israel’s defensive support could make them more vulnerable and and thereby hopefully force them to the negotiation table and or at least provide motivation for a cease fire since they would be more at risk. Right now they are in a position where they can be as aggressive as they want to whomever they like without concern for retaliation.
While I agree that stopping all weapons shipments to Israel should be the goal, stopping defensive systems could make them dial back offensive moves thus reducing casualties on the other side.
Your comment comes across to me as though you didn’t want it to pass. My point is that if this is all that can be done we should do it. We should pass this and then work to pass additional restrictions. I don’t care how piecemeal it ends up. We should stop what we can when we can.
Cool…
So you understand this would have caused more death on both sides…
You just still want it to happen
That’s your opinion, but I’m definitely not spending more time here.
You asserted it would cause more death on both sides but do not back that up with any reasoning, despite me suggesting that they can reroute offense spending to defense spending which would curb death on the Palestinian side while preserving the defense of Israel.
I would not be interested in providing defense aid to hitlers Germany. I’m not interested in providing military aid either for offense or defense to anyone committing genocide. If they are concerned about their defense they can stop the genocide and regain aid.
Of course they do. AOC’s argument is literally just “Good guy with a gun” rhetoric. Why would Ilhan Omar, Al Green, and plenty of other progressives have voted for the amendment otherwise?
