• VantaBrandon@lemmy.world
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    The message was loud and clear: America writ large is not ready for anything less than a straight, white, male president. Its time to stop being delusional, Obama was a fluke, and not going to be repeated. You might not like hearing it, but its the reality on the ground, don’t take it from me.

    In retrospect, I think Biden could have shat himself on live TV while asleep at the podium and probably have still gotten elected, the bar was so, so low. Kamala basically ran a prefect campaign, its just not what America wants.

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      Obama was a once in many generation politician, he had charisma and appeal no democrat president ever had. Democrats better field a white straight male from now on if they want to win, forget women president for 3-4 decades now. The kind of misogyny in america is crazy, I am from India, a third world country and even we had a female Prime Minister in our 75 year of independent history, and she was very much respected and one of the most popular. America in its 250 year of history had none, thats just crazy for a so called superpower

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        Obama was and is and always will be a centrist playing the role of a leftist. Romneycare watered down with extreme Republican ramrodding torpedoeing their own policies into Romneycare-lite and Obama still went with it. That’s some of the reasons why people hate hate and really hate corpo dems and their nominees. Either voters get turned off or turned away or turned against.

        Kamala and DNC are to blame for this mess.

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      Yeah that could be true, or it might also be true that people don’t like corporate Democrats. Or maybe other issues are important. Maybe Harris was weak on Palestine. Maybe it mattered that the old man took so long to get himself out of the race. Maybe the fact that felons can’t vote played a role. Maybe the electoral college was a factor.

      Wait a second, we can go on and on and come up with all of these reasons that you don’t think matter at all, but everyone else knows they do.

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      I heard plenty of jokes from Democrats who said when voting for Obama that they were voting for his white half. So your not wrong.

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      I’m a woman. I do not want someone incompetent as the first female president. I do not want a warmonger. I would happily and am very eager to vote in a female president who is both competent and has policies that get us peace. Kamala was not competent. Hillary was a war monger. Give us a good candidate and I’ll give them a vote.

      Millions of women feel the same as I do, as to millions of POC, both women and men.

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      Kamala basically ran a perfect campaign? I would be shocked if you could name one policy idea of hers and the implementation planned for it.

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        When did you fuckers started caring about policies? Concepts of a plans, that’s what matters apparently, and that’s what you deserve. She probably did herself a disservice even talking about any policies at all, you braindead morons fell asleap the second she started. Well you personally did, since you can’t name even one

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            Yeah, you’re right. I need to get back to my old instance that defederated that dumpster fire long ago.

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          Is there a name for this weird grouping some of you are using to cope? “‘You’ fuckers” “‘They’ are going to see now”, like it’s not xenophobia, it’s not particularly racism, but definitely feels like a flavor of it. It’s like a fan upset their team lost and is blaming the crowd, but feels more nefarious.

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            It’s smug online liberal racism. They’re not saying it explicitly but you see the veil start to drop when anyone mentions American Arabs and Muslims.

            I wonder what demographics specifically they’re thinking about when they say “they’ll get what they voted for”? Obviously since some groups had a different set of priorities or principles than the too-online democrat they’re intellectually inferior and didn’t understand what they were doing. It’s not the party or the candidate’s fault they weren’t elected, it’s that “the people” were too stupid to vote for her!

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              When you knowingly help electing a bumbling nazi, but it’s liberals fault and they are actually the racist ones.