• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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    You might as well write on your own name as do the third party vote in an election year.

    There are 3 other years to go stump for third parties and see if they can take a viable shot. When they clearly can’t, evidenced by the fact no third party even got enough support to enter into the debates, there’s nothing to do but be pragmatic.

    You’ve got to do the best you can with what you’ve got at every stage because the moral high ground doesn’t control any seats in any government, write any laws, or generally solve your problems. Maybe you sleep better at night (I hope you do), but that is the only perk you get as far as I can tell.

    We would probably both complain about other people being single issue on topics like abortion, guns, and religion. This is not so different.

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      When they clearly can’t, evidenced by the fact no third party even got enough support to enter into the debates,

      And the fact that the ironically-named Democrats rig their primaries.

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        Third parties have exactly nothing to do with D primaries, even though your statement is correct. Fuck Debbie Wasserman Shultz in particular, the last decade could have gone a lot differently.

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      No you can let the Democrats lose and show them that they won’t win while supporting genocide. That will force them to pivot.

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        I guess we will see what happens next run if there is a fair one. I hope you prove me wrong, but I just pretty strongly doubt it.

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          We’re already seeing a massive pivot. The only reason most Democrats didn’t care about genocide is because they were too scared to lose if they actively opposed it. Now that they see that they will lose if they don’t actively oppose it, suddenly we see a surge in popularity of figures like Mamdani.

          It’s sad that it required Democrat voters losing for genocide to be waken up from the illusion of being able to win with ‘the lesser evil’ mentality

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            Again, I hope you’re right. Mamdani is the only one I can name, and one snowflake is hardly an avalanche, but it’s a start.

            Edit:

            I think we could have also had the same showing for Mamdani, you know, without Trump. But maybe I’m crazy in that respect. I see no reason why his win has to be predicated on R winning presidency and a shitload of seats, he could have just demonstrated a better strategy with a more decisive outcome was available.

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              Not for the lack of public opinion shifting.

              Palestine is the ultimate Litmus test. Politicians who do support Israel are compromised.

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              As a response to your edit: Democrats would have been validated in supporting genocide to win and nobody would have dared to support change.

              It’s truly sad this loss was necessary to get them to change their stance on genocide after the Abandon Biden campaign told them in advance.

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      We would probably both complain about other people being single issue on topics like abortion, guns, and religion. This is not so different.

      It’s, it is different, you genocide apologist freak.