They were triangular for ease of manufacture, they were also stronger that way. They didn’t need to be particularly slicey, they were pretty much just for pointy stabbies. So a triangular blade would do.
3 things. First it’s a myth that triangular bayonets are banned under the geneva conventions. Only serrated bayonets are illegal. Secondly it wouldn’t make sense to ban something in war because it’s “more lethal”. That’s like the whole point of war. Serrated blades are banned because they cause undue suffering. Third, the geneva conventions only apply to humanitarian treatment at war. Governments are free to do what they want to their citizens according to international law. It’s why tear gas is banned for warfare via the geneva conventions yet police can gas the shit out of protestors.
Nitpick: the Geneva conventions apply for all kinds of conflicts, including domestic ones. However, tear gas is allowed for riot control in policing.
The reason it’s banned in war is because if the other side sees you using chemical weapons, they might respond with their own, but the bad ones, like nerve gas. In riot control, that isn’t going to happen.
Yes, it was the “undue suffering” component that I was thinking of. Thanks for the clarification. What was the reason to do away with them then? They went to flat blades, didn’t they? Not sure if bayonets are even current issue for armies any longer. Are they?
O please. Get a grip. You’ll get yourself shot. Or you’ll shot a cop, and give an excuse for even more violence and state repression. Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.
Get a camera, set it to record to a remote location, preferable a data center in another country. What we really need are tech volunteers to start setting up these types of digital cameras in ethnic neighborhoods to document what is happening.
National Guard is a branch of the army isn’t it? I’m not sure you can just quit. AWOL? Maybe. If you’re close to your end date you can choose not to continue. But quit? Don’t think army works like that
This isn’t russia, AWOL means forefitting benefits and possibly sitting in jail for a bit. Juggling between the consequences of AWOL or carrying out nazi orders, I know what my choice would be.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and bet your not the type to join the Armed Forces in the first place. -No offense (I’m not either) I say this because I think the type of person that’s anti-war enough to opt for jail over carrying out nazi orders is the same type of person that knows better than to ever find themselves in a position to make this decision. If I’m wrong, I welcome your corrections.
remember anyone who joined did so willingly as we are 100% volunteers in the US.
If you find yourself waking up to the facts of the regime you volunteered for, good! if you are unwilling to lose benefits or do some time, then you’re not yet awake enough to really care.
remember: you may have joined due to propaganda and agitation, and you may not be able to awol because of capitalism.
the very same “ism” that profits from the military action.
If you don’t take off the uniform and quit, you’re a Gestapo agent.
I have a feeling that Maga is strongly represented in all armed forces…
Refuse. Unlawful. Orders.
If sanity ever returns to your country, you don’t want to be on the wrong side.
If a masked person enters my property and refuses to show identification, I will absolutely be practicing self-defense.
Do it just like the Founding Fathers intended:
TIL bayonet wounds are triangle shaped.
They were triangular for ease of manufacture, they were also stronger that way. They didn’t need to be particularly slicey, they were pretty much just for pointy stabbies. So a triangular blade would do.
I believe the triangular bayonets are against the Geneva Convention rules of war now chiefly because of their lethality.
3 things. First it’s a myth that triangular bayonets are banned under the geneva conventions. Only serrated bayonets are illegal. Secondly it wouldn’t make sense to ban something in war because it’s “more lethal”. That’s like the whole point of war. Serrated blades are banned because they cause undue suffering. Third, the geneva conventions only apply to humanitarian treatment at war. Governments are free to do what they want to their citizens according to international law. It’s why tear gas is banned for warfare via the geneva conventions yet police can gas the shit out of protestors.
Nitpick: the Geneva conventions apply for all kinds of conflicts, including domestic ones. However, tear gas is allowed for riot control in policing.
The reason it’s banned in war is because if the other side sees you using chemical weapons, they might respond with their own, but the bad ones, like nerve gas. In riot control, that isn’t going to happen.
Yes, it was the “undue suffering” component that I was thinking of. Thanks for the clarification. What was the reason to do away with them then? They went to flat blades, didn’t they? Not sure if bayonets are even current issue for armies any longer. Are they?
You’ve run into the answer here: bayonets simply aren’t a big deal in warfare anymore, so it doesn’t overly matter what they’re shaped like.
The US aren’t concerned with conventions, are they? I mean they use cluster ammunition, depleted uranium ammunition etc…
Good thing we aren’t an army.
O please. Get a grip. You’ll get yourself shot. Or you’ll shot a cop, and give an excuse for even more violence and state repression. Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.
Get a camera, set it to record to a remote location, preferable a data center in another country. What we really need are tech volunteers to start setting up these types of digital cameras in ethnic neighborhoods to document what is happening.
Document it for whom and what?
The same army we would be fighting got their asses handed to them by insurgents in Vietnam and Afghanistan
Where did you hear this? You are flat-out wrong, thousands of examples prove this statement to be totally untrue.
Also, there’s usually much more to it than simply fighting, it’s rarely “peaceful protest” or “fighting” alone.
But they can film their way out of one?
Happy to lend tech expertise where needed, let me know
If an unidentified masked person is harassing me on my property I’m not just going to let it happen but make sure it is recorded.
National Guard is a branch of the army isn’t it? I’m not sure you can just quit. AWOL? Maybe. If you’re close to your end date you can choose not to continue. But quit? Don’t think army works like that
Just tell them you’re trans or gay
laughs in M.A.S.H.
“Section 8, here I come!”
This isn’t russia, AWOL means forefitting benefits and possibly sitting in jail for a bit. Juggling between the consequences of AWOL or carrying out nazi orders, I know what my choice would be.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and bet your not the type to join the Armed Forces in the first place. -No offense (I’m not either) I say this because I think the type of person that’s anti-war enough to opt for jail over carrying out nazi orders is the same type of person that knows better than to ever find themselves in a position to make this decision. If I’m wrong, I welcome your corrections.
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I’m not saying you shouldn’t go AWOL. I’m saying you can’t just quit
neat.
remember anyone who joined did so willingly as we are 100% volunteers in the US.
If you find yourself waking up to the facts of the regime you volunteered for, good! if you are unwilling to lose benefits or do some time, then you’re not yet awake enough to really care.
remember: you may have joined due to propaganda and agitation, and you may not be able to awol because of capitalism.
the very same “ism” that profits from the military action.
You can’t just leave your badge on the desk and walk out like in movies, either.
But being punished for abandoning your post might be the only other alternative to being a brute in the service of a dictator.
The Army and law enforcement of DC will decide in whatever direction their personal characters leans them towards.
“I can change THE system from THE inside!!1”
No, you can’t. Run. The tribunals that you will face after Trump is arrested or killed will not be kind to you.
So funny story, I had a coworker basically up and walk out like in the movies. So I mean, you kind of can.
Meaning not without legal repercussions. You have to be formally discharged in both services.
But hey, law and common sense appear to be clean out the window in America now so, go nuts!
Never heard about any legal percussions. Supposedly he can’t come back though