If you truly believe a Mac is locked down more than North Korea you need to do some research. And I pray you never find out how locked down North Korea is first hand.
I didn’t say that I did. Please don’t put words into my mouth.
There’s a million billion reasons to knock MacOS, but saying it’s too locked down in a thread about Linux is wild. They’re both Unix based OSes. They’re siblings. If you’re comfortable enough with a command line to terminal your way through managing Linux then you’re capable enough to terminal your way through MacOS and get it to do anything you could get Linux to do.
The rabid amount of Linux fanboyism on Lemmy is quite off putting in general. Any conversation about Microsoft gets brigaded with “Just use Linux!” even if the conversation has nothing to do with it. It makes it a pain to have any decent discourse about things.
Think people who got on lemmy originally lean techy (and thus more likely to use linux and be passionate about it), and people who joined after the IPO thing have more diverse reasons for abandoning reddit.
Yeah same for me with my rift cv1 the current driver altough better than before is still pretty bad in comparison to windows like 50fps at best and with other drivers it gets 28 fps.
What Linux are you using? I wanted to do the switch soon to either zorin or buzzite, but I would also like to keep using my valve index. Reading this here makes me reluctant to complete the switch.
I am using opensuse but it is hard to build monado or openhmd with it necause some packages you need to get from fedora because they dont exist or have a version tag with _SUSE which makes it not see that the package is there. I would recommend something more mainstream: Arch, fedora, debian and etc. But bazzite should work I think I succeefully ran my rift on it for a little bit.
I am a professional designer with two decades of experience and I gotta admit, you’re smoking crack if you think GIMP (the project that is almost entirely held back by its stupid name) is superior to Photoshop.
It might be able to get the job done for small tasks, but it is not a serious tool for serious people. I’m sorry. I’m as pro-FLOSS as anyone can get, and even I recognize that right now there’s just no competition in the design department. Affinity is Mac-only, and comes with its own problematic aspects.
Except it really isn’t, unfortunately. As someone who fucking hates adobe and Photoshop, GIMP falls far short. Photoshop is made to work as part of a toolkit, and GIMP isn’t interested in any form of compatibility. Take, for example, an issue that’s been around (and in the bug tracker) since the release of 2.10. Something about the way GIMP handles colors means that most programs can’t use alpha channels output by GIMP correctly, and see it as having much higher contrast than it’s meant to. The stance seems to be that this is intended behavior. However, this is clearly not the case, as even when only using GIMP, re-importing the image shows that, even though the contrast is correct, data was still lost.
agree 100% on gimp. It took me about a year to get used to it and now I have a free license for photoshop at work, but I still prefer gimp 2.8 on my work computer with windows. At home I use Gimp on linux all day nearly every day and do texture editing for games all of the time. Very productive tool.
Show me an OSS alternative to Excel that actually does tables, one of the most used, basic functions in excel.
I use tables every day for things like:I have a list of movies, sort them by producer. Or by production date. Or main actor. All these require a a single click on a column, something Open Office devs refuse to ever implement.
I use Linux every day for my servers, but not as my desktop. There’s too much stuff like this that I don’t have time for.
To a lot of people it’s difficult. Vendor lock-in, support, cartels (the old kind) and familiarity are very important factors in choosing what you’re going to use to compute things.
We should embrace the new ones and build things that they are going to use.
There are legitimate reasons not to use Linux, but the user interface is not one of them, Linux can be way friendlier UI-wise than windows, see Desktops like cinnamon.
Yeah, linux can be almost anything you want it to be. It’ll run faster and look and feel just the same as windows, if not better. The only bad thing, and I say this as someone who’s still on windows and will switch soontm, is that there’s a lot of work that comes with that.
A friend of mine who’s all about linux is always fixing something about his installation. Though from what I know, he’s using Arch, which apparently is less stable/needs more work to get going (something about bleeding edge).
Only reason why I haven’t changed yet is because of VR and adobe programs. As soon as VR is a bit more seamless and I get replacements for adobe I’m off of windows.
The only issue I have with my Index is that linux somehow prioritizes it over my main monitor when booting so i have to plug it in after booting and then all works fine.
WiVRn from quest app store, wivrn desktop app. I also needed xrizer nightly for secondary gun mode to work in half life alyx. Can’t guarantee much else though since I only really play beat saber.
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they actually still ‘win’, because you’re still using their platform.
JUST. MOVE. TO. LINUX.
I don’t get why people complain about windows when there’s CLEARLY an alternative.
As a Linux user: PLEASE. CUT. IT. OUT.
What’s the alternative then? “dEbLoAtInG” Windows?
It’s gonna get re-bloated again and again! And they will add more and more bullshit over time, annoying way more!
No, the alternative is to realise you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Or Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024. That has less bloat in the first place.
Or MacOS. That might work better for the individual user’s use case.
Win11 IoT Enterprise LTSC is for enterprises, not normal users.
macOS needs some sort of mac from apple, and those are ridiculously overpriced and locked down more than north korea.
Why would you believe Big Tech? They’re lying 99% of the time for profit, heck; they do every bullshit possible on this universe just for money.
The name. The literal name.
It was a kinda exaggerated comparison, but my point stands: it is very locked down.
Using big tech’s products means that you support them. And why would you support something evil?
See how that works?
There’s a million billion reasons to knock MacOS, but saying it’s too locked down in a thread about Linux is wild. They’re both Unix based OSes. They’re siblings. If you’re comfortable enough with a command line to terminal your way through managing Linux then you’re capable enough to terminal your way through MacOS and get it to do anything you could get Linux to do.
I’ll use what I want, when I want, how I want, where I want.
Who are you to demand otherwise? People like you are the reason other see Linux people as hostile neck beards.
It doesn’t fit everyone’s use case.
Perfect is the enemy of good. It fits most people’s use case.
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Use a VM if you must.
Then you will still find MAS useful.
As a Linux enjoyer, I agree with you but try not to sound so negative, it’s off putting to normal folks.
The rabid amount of Linux fanboyism on Lemmy is quite off putting in general. Any conversation about Microsoft gets brigaded with “Just use Linux!” even if the conversation has nothing to do with it. It makes it a pain to have any decent discourse about things.
It’s just that naturally on a libre Fediverse platform, people are gonna have higher tech literacy than the average populus.
Think people who got on lemmy originally lean techy (and thus more likely to use linux and be passionate about it), and people who joined after the IPO thing have more diverse reasons for abandoning reddit.
Lemmy pretty much converted me from Windows to Linux within a year of API-gate.
Well yeah, people that are seeking out an open decentralized platform are more likely to not be fans of a closed centralized operating system.
Virtual reality on my valve index is basically unplayable on Linux currently due to driver issues :(
Yeah same for me with my rift cv1 the current driver altough better than before is still pretty bad in comparison to windows like 50fps at best and with other drivers it gets 28 fps.
What Linux are you using? I wanted to do the switch soon to either zorin or buzzite, but I would also like to keep using my valve index. Reading this here makes me reluctant to complete the switch.
I am using opensuse but it is hard to build monado or openhmd with it necause some packages you need to get from fedora because they dont exist or have a version tag with _SUSE which makes it not see that the package is there. I would recommend something more mainstream: Arch, fedora, debian and etc. But bazzite should work I think I succeefully ran my rift on it for a little bit.
Linux is enough for me personally, but some ppl use software like Photoshop so it’s impossible unless they use winapps or something
There are alternatives for everything, and most of them are better that the windows-only options. Gimp, for example, is far superior to Photoshop.
That said, some folks do have to use the crappy MS software for work. There’s nothing to be done but to pity them.
I am a professional designer with two decades of experience and I gotta admit, you’re smoking crack if you think GIMP (the project that is almost entirely held back by its stupid name) is superior to Photoshop.
It might be able to get the job done for small tasks, but it is not a serious tool for serious people. I’m sorry. I’m as pro-FLOSS as anyone can get, and even I recognize that right now there’s just no competition in the design department. Affinity is Mac-only, and comes with its own problematic aspects.
Affinity is very much not Mac-only. I bought the Windows version for my ex (back when we were still married) for her Windows PC.
GIMP is only superior if your goal is moral superiority. If you want to actually get work done, GIMP isn’t even in the running.
Adobe sucks balls as a company but, my man…
If sucks don’t use it.
Except it really isn’t, unfortunately. As someone who fucking hates adobe and Photoshop, GIMP falls far short. Photoshop is made to work as part of a toolkit, and GIMP isn’t interested in any form of compatibility. Take, for example, an issue that’s been around (and in the bug tracker) since the release of 2.10. Something about the way GIMP handles colors means that most programs can’t use alpha channels output by GIMP correctly, and see it as having much higher contrast than it’s meant to. The stance seems to be that this is intended behavior. However, this is clearly not the case, as even when only using GIMP, re-importing the image shows that, even though the contrast is correct, data was still lost.
Lmao.
agree 100% on gimp. It took me about a year to get used to it and now I have a free license for photoshop at work, but I still prefer gimp 2.8 on my work computer with windows. At home I use Gimp on linux all day nearly every day and do texture editing for games all of the time. Very productive tool.
Excel.
Show me an OSS alternative to Excel that actually does tables, one of the most used, basic functions in excel.
I use tables every day for things like:I have a list of movies, sort them by producer. Or by production date. Or main actor. All these require a a single click on a column, something Open Office devs refuse to ever implement.
I use Linux every day for my servers, but not as my desktop. There’s too much stuff like this that I don’t have time for.
Does this LbreOffice example answer your question?
OpenOffice got bought by Oracle apparently so people are jumping ship to LibreOffice.
I’ve not tried to make such a table myself in Libreoffice, but when I open one that someone at work made with excel, everything works as expected.
Can you showcase this specific feature you are asking about? Maybe other software or platforms have it under different names or a different solution.
To a lot of people it’s difficult. Vendor lock-in, support, cartels (the old kind) and familiarity are very important factors in choosing what you’re going to use to compute things.
We should embrace the new ones and build things that they are going to use.
I prefer a user-friendly interface, plus I regularly use VR with my Quest, which Linux does not like
There are legitimate reasons not to use Linux, but the user interface is not one of them, Linux can be way friendlier UI-wise than windows, see Desktops like cinnamon.
Yeah, linux can be almost anything you want it to be. It’ll run faster and look and feel just the same as windows, if not better. The only bad thing, and I say this as someone who’s still on windows and will switch soontm, is that there’s a lot of work that comes with that.
A friend of mine who’s all about linux is always fixing something about his installation. Though from what I know, he’s using Arch, which apparently is less stable/needs more work to get going (something about bleeding edge).
Only reason why I haven’t changed yet is because of VR and adobe programs. As soon as VR is a bit more seamless and I get replacements for adobe I’m off of windows.
if you want to be super cursed I’ve seen people replicate several of the windows UIs with desktop environment themes
For sure, not hard to do, and even part of the fun (ricing).
I think VR might actually be a reason to still use windows unless something changed in the last two years
Yeah, that’s what I have heard, but I’m talking about UI superiority.
I agree
The only issue I have with my Index is that linux somehow prioritizes it over my main monitor when booting so i have to plug it in after booting and then all works fine.
Index probably works fine but I don’t know about non valve headsets
Guess what, people can have the Windows UI without doing anything beyond what they’re already doing.
WiVRn from quest app store, wivrn desktop app. I also needed xrizer nightly for secondary gun mode to work in half life alyx. Can’t guarantee much else though since I only really play beat saber.
Show me a Linux spreadsheet app that does tables, which I use every day.
LibreOffice
what do you mean by tables?
They also tell people to use it if there’s something wrong with their license.