kirk’s death is doing nothing to dent MAGA oppression or do anything good but the opposite, just like i said… “Mr. Trump, who has downplayed violence from right-wing or other supporters, said that he would like to designate a range of groups, including the loosely affiliated group of far-left anti-fascism activists, known as “antifa,” as domestic terrorists and bring racketeering cases against people funding protests.”

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        And a bonus for when conservative types do these attacks, since they’re gonna just punish the left anyway

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    I haven’t googled it in awhile but IIRC antifa just means anti fascist. It’s not like an organization.

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      I remember when antifascist was a good thing to be. Like all the time from the 1930s to the 2010s.

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        It is still a good thing to be. Just because the Fascists don’t like it, doesn’t mean we have to indulge them.

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          Of course. It’s just crazy that this “antifascism is bad” line gets any traction at all, and that the media don’t call it out.

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        During the Red Scare, people were persecuted for being “premature anti-fascists.” See, at first, the only pushback was coming from the socialists and commies.

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      If you’re anti fashism, you’re anti (future) America and need to be dealt with because you’re a terrorist. /s

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    Racketeering for “funding protests” sounds a lot like making it illegal to donate to groups who don’t support him.

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          I have zero concern for that guy. I just don’t think he has the leverage or the charisma to keep the party in check like Trump does.

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            So Thiel put him in place and much of the policy that has consumed Trump’s second term is actually helping to cement Thiel’s plan for dominance. The giant data collection on behalf of DOGE/Musk, focus on AI, and deregulating the FDA bc “RFK says so” was actually Thiel’s plan going back to when he became involved in Trump’s first term.

            Given that the House democrat who began the process of calling for Epstein files is also a Peter Thiel sycophant, I have a feeling that Vance replacing Trump before the 4 year mark, was always the plan.

            (I do think the Democrats in the Senate like Wyden and Warren, specifically calling Thiel, Bessent and big banks out last Wednesday, was probably not part of their plan, and it seems to have kind of spooked them a bit. Like they seem to be panicking and rushing through the power grab more quickly than they thought they would need to.)

            Once you have full impenetrable authoritarian control in place, it doesn’t really matter who the face is that’s sitting in the seat of president. If they’re restricting public protest or “delaying” elections due to safety concerns, charisma doesn’t really matter.

            As far as cancelling, delaying, or restricting elections, my guess is most likely they will attempt to propose something like moving voting online due to heightened safety concerns. They probably will also claim it somehow actually protects against voter fraud, and implement ID verification in order to submit a vote online. Which not only means your vote likely doesn’t count for jack shit, it possibly makes you a target for even attempting to vote against them.

            This is also why I find the behavior of the entire GOP very concerning. Sometimes individuals seem like they might be getting cold feet, but in general there seems to be a pretty clear understanding that going scorched earth on your voter base, isn’t something you really need to worry about. When the time for your re-election comes your loyalty will be rewarded.

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              I just don’t believe that without a Trump like figure, they’ll maintain that leverage. I know all about Theil and Vance and that they’re trying to setup exactly what you’re describing. I just don’t think they can do it. We should absolutely be fighting against it and preparing for it to happen though.

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                I hope they can’t but the rich and powerful across the globe seem to accomplish some pretty miraculous things you would think had no chance of happening. Especially when they’re allowed to hide what they’re doing in the shadows.

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    It’s kinda weird they just immediately took over his entire platform to use . It’s almost like this all kind of unexpectedly worked out to their advantage…

    Unrelated, but do you think this crackdown will be aimed at censoring all forms of activism?

    Bc I’m very interested in creating new organizations similar to Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD). Like I have an idea for one called Mothers Against Pedophelia (MAP). You don’t have to be a mother to join, and we’re definitely not a political organization. Just mothers (and others) who organize to strongly seek an end to pedophilia and prevent any pedophiles in positions of authority from being able to harm more children, whoever those pedophiles might be.

    Like will this administration also try to keep MAP from protecting our children? I sure hope not. I just can’t imagine the kind of world where anyone could ever (publicly) admit to preventing mothers from protecting children from pedophiles? Won’t somebody think about the children!?!

    I wonder what other kinds of non political organizations might be popping up in the near future?

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      I’m not sure if I’m missing a joke here, but definitely do not use MAP as your acronym. Pedophiles already took that one.

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        ? Never heard of it. I mean there’s also Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), but I think we can make it pretty clear what our organization stands for.

        But, I would also hope we would inspire several offshoots. We could have Christians Against Pedophelia (CAP) and demand our religious freedom be respected by holding interfaith prayer breakfasts in schools to raise awareness.

        I think there are probably plenty of non political groups that don’t support pedophelia, and it terrifies me to know that our government could potentially interfere with our freedom of expression by trying to force us into silence at a time when powerful pedophiles with leadership positions in government, banks, and big corporations are being protected.

        If I thought this was just a joke I would have taken a page from DOGE and suggested something like Families Against Pedophelia (FAP). I’m not joking though, I find it pretty upsetting that our own leaders might expect us to just be silent when it comes to protecting those who need the most protection. Especially while the powerful people who are harming them appear to be receiving some kind of government protection. We now have confirmation about who was involved, and we just need enough of the people that we elected and trusted with their positions of power to confirm they don’t want to protect pedophiles by releasing the financial information that shows exactly what transpired between these rich and powerful people.

        I understand Vance doesn’t want any political violence, and neither do I. Thats why this isn’t a political organization. In fact, this actually seems like an issue that should bring all of America together. I would welcome anyone regardless of political party or personal faith to join us demanding pedophiles be removed from their positions of power and influence. I would hope Vance himself would be against pedophiles if he was asked directly by our organizations. If not, I would want to know why?

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      Protecting pedophiles os one of this administration’s highest priority objectives so yes, as soon as a pedophile of means finds themselves in some way affected.