• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    When I was in politics I have a friend that used to say: “The best way to win is not to act like them”.

    I still live by that phrase. I don’t want ro become then thing I want to destroy.

    Maybe it is just me. I cannot stand lies. I left political activism mostly because I saw people on my same group lying “for the cause”. And I cannot be dishonest or stand dishonesty, no matter the cause.

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      Personally, I would rather live in a democracy as a liar than die under fascism knowing that I always told the truth.

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        The thing is that when you build something using the enemy tactics you end up with the country the enemy wanted.

        When you use fascist tactics you end up in a fascist state. If you don’t believe me ask me most revolutionary countries that did “everything possible” to build the workers paradise.

        I don’t really think there’s a way to do bad things and end up with a good result.

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          I don’t really think there’s a way to do bad things and end up with a good result

          Worked pretty well in WWII. when someone is as bad as the Nazis (and MAGA is every bit as bad as the Nazis), doing very bad things to them is the moral choice. You aren’t hurting bad people, you are protecting good people, using the appropriate level of force required. It’s a necessary use of violence to defend the good.

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            If we are at war give me a rifle and let’s go killing people.

            If we are not at war we shouldn’t behave like that.

            Anyway, the allies didn’t lie about the nazis. Or about the people killing the nazis.

            I’m 100% serious that I’m more against lying about the killer than against the assassination per se.

            Among other things, if the killed end up being left wing you are throwing a lot of shit about a a fellow leftist, calling him groyper, racist and everything. And he may be “one of us”. That’s a fucked up thing to do in the name of propaganda.

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              Propaganda is just marketing. In fact, the guy who coined the word propaganda was an expert in marketing and advertising.

              MAGAs have the Conservative Propaganda Machine, which is a wonder to behold, and 100% responsible for their success. They are extremely organized and have been honing their skills for DECADES. The CPM recruits, indoctrinates, excuses, rallies, insults, spins, and much more. It is their nuclear weapon, and they deploy it all day, EVERY day.

              The Dems have literally nothing to offer in response. Even their own representatives, like Schmuck Schumer, are far more interested in insider trading than governing. He just recycles the same stern letter/speech for each loss of our Constitutional rights. Look at how Trump broadcasts his success with everything, even if it hasn’t even happened. Contrast that with Biden, who had an extremely successful presidency, but the Dems didn’t think it would be polite to brag. So his presidency ended up being dominated by his piss poor performance in reigning in MAGA, which was well within his rights and responsibilities to CRUSH as a viable National Security Threat, and he will forever be remembered as one of the weakest presidents in history.

              If the Dems are ever going to regain power, they need to get control of their messaging. Right now, it is literally non-existent. It needs to be coordinated, widespread, and LOUD.

              They also need a progressive platform, but that’s a separate discussion.