Yeah but that doesn’t mean we should just give up and let Fascism take over. Any pushback is good, no mater how ineffective it is. Make Trump’s life as difficult as you can. With enough luck, the pressure will send him to an early demise.
Well to start, the effectiveness isn’t possible to measure at this point.
However, the comment had nothing to do with that, and instead was about you comparing attempted protests to “participation trophies” which is a conservative dog whistle for “kids these days don’t have that dog eat dog capitalist spirit, do we need more lead in the air again?”
For context, WW2 was faught and won with participation trophy snowflakes. If it was good enough to defeat Nazis then, it’s good enough to defeat Nazis now.
Not that it’s relevant at all here, but who do you think came up with the idea to give people participation awards? Do you think it was the children who were confused about getting them?
Honest question. First, I agree with you. So it’s why I’m asking. Are you organizing in anyway? Protests? Mutual Aids? Organizations? Anything?
If you think this way I hope so. Because we need you. Shits getting real on the streets and I’m worried most people that realize that are at home watching Twitch streams or YouTube coverage of it.
Doomerism needs to die. You can still be realistic. But doomerism keeps you from acting. It’s the “freeze” of you flight or flight response and it’s not going to help.
Is it though? As planned by MAGA? I’ve seen other news from Portland/Oregon, it looks like the local admin is prepared to stop the National Guard. As well as protesters.
The Trump regime clearly still follows (some) court orders, even if they’re hoping to circumvent them. So why should we roll over and give up in the courts? That is the ridiculous notion.
I think you’re confusing an authoritarian breakthrough with authoritarianism. We’re still in the phase where courts have an effect.
I don’t think you’re picking up what I’m putting down. I’m saying that the courts are one tool in our resistance toolbox, because the Trump regime still sometimes listens to court rulings—as their authoritarian takeover isn’t complete. I’m not saying courts are magical in that they’ll instantly stop Trump forever, and I’m not saying they’re sufficient on their own. We have to keep resisting and practicing non-cooperation as well.
That’s sweet, but it’s not gonna help. It’s gonna happen.
Yeah but that doesn’t mean we should just give up and let Fascism take over. Any pushback is good, no mater how ineffective it is. Make Trump’s life as difficult as you can. With enough luck, the pressure will send him to an early demise.
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I think ineffective pushback is bad and I’m on the wrong side? I think wasting time on things that are ineffective is bad and I’m on the wrong side?
We are so fucked 🤪
Well to start, the effectiveness isn’t possible to measure at this point.
However, the comment had nothing to do with that, and instead was about you comparing attempted protests to “participation trophies” which is a conservative dog whistle for “kids these days don’t have that dog eat dog capitalist spirit, do we need more lead in the air again?”
For context, WW2 was faught and won with participation trophy snowflakes. If it was good enough to defeat Nazis then, it’s good enough to defeat Nazis now.
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Not that it’s relevant at all here, but who do you think came up with the idea to give people participation awards? Do you think it was the children who were confused about getting them?
Angry parents probably. Crybaby kids.
Boomers. The answer is boomers.
Yeah and who handed them out, hmm? I didn’t ask for your god damn participation trophy.
The generation that is responsible for raising the “lazy Millennials” sure loves to point the finger instead of looking in the mirror.
I’m a lazy millennial, sorry to burst your bubble.
Then act your age and think for yourself, instead of parroting what your parents told you.
I disagree with you. That doesn’t make me a different generation.
I don’t think you actually read what I said.
Ineffective pushback is a waste of good push energy. Push in a productive way. Thrust, if you must.
Honest question. First, I agree with you. So it’s why I’m asking. Are you organizing in anyway? Protests? Mutual Aids? Organizations? Anything?
If you think this way I hope so. Because we need you. Shits getting real on the streets and I’m worried most people that realize that are at home watching Twitch streams or YouTube coverage of it.
Doomerism needs to die. You can still be realistic. But doomerism keeps you from acting. It’s the “freeze” of you flight or flight response and it’s not going to help.
Is it though? As planned by MAGA? I’ve seen other news from Portland/Oregon, it looks like the local admin is prepared to stop the National Guard. As well as protesters.
The local admin will not line up and be a human shield. It is a ridiculous notion that the storm troopers will stop because of a bunch of paperwork.
The Trump regime clearly still follows (some) court orders, even if they’re hoping to circumvent them. So why should we roll over and give up in the courts? That is the ridiculous notion.
I think you’re confusing an authoritarian breakthrough with authoritarianism. We’re still in the phase where courts have an effect.
Courts have the effect of a few days. If, in a few more days, the California National Guard is in Oregon—will you apologize to me?
I don’t think you’re picking up what I’m putting down. I’m saying that the courts are one tool in our resistance toolbox, because the Trump regime still sometimes listens to court rulings—as their authoritarian takeover isn’t complete. I’m not saying courts are magical in that they’ll instantly stop Trump forever, and I’m not saying they’re sufficient on their own. We have to keep resisting and practicing non-cooperation as well.
We aren’t resisting or practicing non-cooperation.
Speak for yourself.
What are you doing, “organizing?”
But really, gimme ideas.