To be fair, I actually agree with her on this. Making fun of someone for how they look is lazy. Especially when there are so many other things that are so easy to pick apart. A general rule of thumb I have is to never make fun of someone about something they are, but something they do is totally fair game.
I think it’s one thing to make fun of the Joseph Merrick, who has very little control over how he looks versus making fun of Kristi Noem who paid people to mutilate her for Trumps approval.
Fascists are inherently vain, as annoying as it may be they HATE when folks make fun of them for their appearance. They revel in being called monsters but the second you call them ugly you hurt their feelings, it’s rather pathetic.
Yeah your point. I’m not trying to get them on my side, I’m trying to piss them off and get under their skin. I want them to go into a depressive spiral put a gun in their mouth and pull the fucken trigger. I want every waking moment to be consumed by folks calling them melty face or leaky neck or any number of things. Because if I can’t have their blood apon my hands through physical force then I wish to do it through psychological force, civility is dead and I will piss on it’s corpse.
Okay, keep using completely unnecessary ad hominem attacks that undercut your message. I’m not going to tell you that you can’t, just that is pointless and the people that you want to reach will be more likely to completely dismiss any valid point you might have otherwise made.
Because she is evil, facts don’t matter to her. There is no debate. No one is being convinced of anything. Belittling fascists is a known nonviolent tactic that works because they are nihilistic narcissists. I’d never say demeaning things about strangers, but public figure Nazis are fair game for anything that bruises their ego.
How is her plastic mold of a face not “something they do?” She wasn’t born like that. Its something she chose and for her to start pretending like she has some moral high ground while disappearing people based on the color of skin they were born with makes her an even slimier subhuman person.
I don’t know, I would say use whatever makes them anxious, go full on psychological warfare. If they are insecure about their natural looks, absolutely use it and make them embarrassed. I support going full bully against fascism.
Those procedures modified her though and are a part of her now. You can argue this all you want. I really don’t care. You are the one that will undercut your own arguments with ad hominem attacks that people will easily dismiss. It doesn’t matter how good your other arguments are, if you give someone even one reason to disregard you they will. You only hurt yourself.
While you are technically correct, I think it is fair to draw a line at Mar-a-Lago face. Ridiculing white supremacist bimbos who intentionally choose that look… I am kind of okay with that. Because the look itself is a symbol of hate.
To be fair, I actually agree with her on this. Making fun of someone for how they look is lazy. Especially when there are so many other things that are so easy to pick apart. A general rule of thumb I have is to never make fun of someone about something they are, but something they do is totally fair game.
I think it’s one thing to make fun of the Joseph Merrick, who has very little control over how he looks versus making fun of Kristi Noem who paid people to mutilate her for Trumps approval.
Sure, but again why do that when there are so many other valid reasons to make fun of her? You belittle your own position when you do that.
Disagree. She chose to look like that so it’s fair game, the same way a bad haircut or weird clothes is fair game.
I guess, if that’s more important to you than all the other horrible shit she’s done.
Fascists are inherently vain, as annoying as it may be they HATE when folks make fun of them for their appearance. They revel in being called monsters but the second you call them ugly you hurt their feelings, it’s rather pathetic.
It’s not the fascists that you can convince to come to your side though. They’re too far gone to be reasoned with at this point.
Yeah your point. I’m not trying to get them on my side, I’m trying to piss them off and get under their skin. I want them to go into a depressive spiral put a gun in their mouth and pull the fucken trigger. I want every waking moment to be consumed by folks calling them melty face or leaky neck or any number of things. Because if I can’t have their blood apon my hands through physical force then I wish to do it through psychological force, civility is dead and I will piss on it’s corpse.
Okay, if that’s the intent, then go for it. I guess our disagreement comes from a different intended audience.
It almost reaches the bar of “concern trolling” at this point.
Okay, keep using completely unnecessary ad hominem attacks that undercut your message. I’m not going to tell you that you can’t, just that is pointless and the people that you want to reach will be more likely to completely dismiss any valid point you might have otherwise made.
those people would dismiss valid points regardless
Not all. But if you always alienate them, then yes all.
Because she is evil, facts don’t matter to her. There is no debate. No one is being convinced of anything. Belittling fascists is a known nonviolent tactic that works because they are nihilistic narcissists. I’d never say demeaning things about strangers, but public figure Nazis are fair game for anything that bruises their ego.
This!
You’re delusional if you think you are debating her. No, the intent would be to convince enough people that her beliefs and actions are vile.
How is her plastic mold of a face not “something they do?” She wasn’t born like that. Its something she chose and for her to start pretending like she has some moral high ground while disappearing people based on the color of skin they were born with makes her an even slimier subhuman person.
I think that’s the line.
Making fun of someone for appearance they naturally have: off limits.
Making fun of someone’s appearance choices: all in.
I don’t know, I would say use whatever makes them anxious, go full on psychological warfare. If they are insecure about their natural looks, absolutely use it and make them embarrassed. I support going full bully against fascism.
Because it comes from an insecurity she was trying to fix.
Sure but so can her hatred of immigrants, her career, and her murdering of a puppy. Should those also be off limits for criticism and ridicule?
No, those are things she does.
As were the procedures she voluntarily did to herself.
Those procedures modified her though and are a part of her now. You can argue this all you want. I really don’t care. You are the one that will undercut your own arguments with ad hominem attacks that people will easily dismiss. It doesn’t matter how good your other arguments are, if you give someone even one reason to disregard you they will. You only hurt yourself.
While you are technically correct, I think it is fair to draw a line at Mar-a-Lago face. Ridiculing white supremacist bimbos who intentionally choose that look… I am kind of okay with that. Because the look itself is a symbol of hate.