• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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    12 hours ago

    Yes, I remember when violence built the Library of Alexandria, or that time that Violence put a man on the moon, or even when violence created a global supply chain reducing famine and enabling luxuries never before seen on earth.

    Wait… Was that violence? I’m sure it probably was.

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      12 hours ago

      Devils advocate.

      The library was built by the wealth of a nation which conquered widely, the space race was driven mainly by the cold war and to show that america could launch a payload wherever they wanted with complete accuracy and do it twelve times without substantial financial trouble, the global supply chain is bathed in blood and the luxeries it provides are at the expense of others. That last one’s not really devils advocate the reason you can get bananas is due to some horrific shit. Same with cocoa, coffee, and many electronic components.

      Though yeah legit though violance hasn’t always been the historic answer.

      Also, it really didn’t have to be where it was. We could have much of this without bpoodshed it’s just easier for those in power to do so with the violence. It keeps them in power

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        11 hours ago

        Well it enables capitalists more profit, so that’s why it keeps them in power. The liberal experiment has been a failed experiment from the jump.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Violence was absolutely part of putting a man on the moon.

      The lead scientist used slave labor to build rockets that hit London.

      The rocket technology was important because of ICBMs.

      And the whole thing was a political ploy to defeat a rival.

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        9 hours ago

        Wernher von Braun mused that the tests went perfectly, but the rocket landed on the wrong planet. His research and passion were used for war but that was not their purpose.

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          8 hours ago

          I’m sure that makes the people who died in forced labor camps feel better.

          The V-2 killed more people in its production than it did when used.

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      9 hours ago

      The global supply chain has pretty much always been violence. The US Navy projects force globally, and US military bases are the cherry on top.