• artyom@piefed.social
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    4 days ago

    What context did you use to derive that anyone thought any of this was “alright”?

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      4 days ago

      Then how is your made-up “context” anywhere near relevant? It sure looks like a way to excuse what they’re doing here.

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        What makes you think my context is “made up”?

        Why don’t you think facts are relevant?

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          “It looks like she’s on the run” is not facts.

          Also, again, irrelevant. There’s no excuse for this fascist horse shit. I wouldn’t give half a fuck if anyone did run from these dickheads, and they don’t need a reason besides skin color or accent to kidnap people.

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            “It looks like she’s on the run” is not facts.

            That’s not the “fact” I was referring to.

            Also, again, irrelevant…I wouldn’t give half a fuck if anyone did run

            The level of resistance is entirely relevant to the use of force. I would recommend researching the use of force continuum.

            If she is running, that would explain why they needed to subdue her, so she could not continue running and kill or maim someone else or cause tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in property damage.

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              These aren’t cops dummy. They are chasing her and pepper balling her kids because they are the wrong color.

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                Who said anything about cops dummy?

                Why they’re chasing her is a different discussion from the use of force necessary to detain her.

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              Fuck off, fasc trash.

              This is America, where we still technically have a 4th amendment.

              The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

              I’m not playing your stupid games. Just fuck off.

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                LOL let me get this straight: this woman could drive her car through the front door of your house or mow down your children on the sidewalk, and if that happens you’re just going to shrug your shoulders and say “shit happens 🤷”? And if you do anything else, you’re a “fasc”?

                E: for your edit: the 4th amendment is not without limitations. Just as every other right in the Bill of Rights isn’t. But you know that already…