cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38674008
The supreme court has issued an emergency order temporarily blocking full Snap food aid payments.
The high court’s order came after the Trump administration asked a federal appeals court on Friday to block a judge’s order that it distribute November’s full monthly food stamp benefits amid a US federal government shutdown.
After that request to block was denied, the Trump administration turned to the supreme court in a further attempt to block the order to fully fund Snap food aid payments.
The application to stay reads: “If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.
…an emergency order to not assist the people.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WE ALMOST HELPED SOMEONE. SOMEONE IS SO FUCKING FIRED.
No food for you!
Ok just some food but not all
Kidding! No food for you! Bwa haha!
That’s what this is like and it’s horrifying. These are people’s lives they’re fucking with. People who live and work and pay taxes in this fucking country. And they re STARVING them. What the everloving fuck!!
My deepest sympathies to all Americans, even the ones who support Trump. At the end of the day, they’re just victims of the system like the rest. And no matter the outcome of the last election, this was inevitable, Trump or no Trump. At best it could have been postponed by a few years.
I wish it was different, but I can’t see all of this ending with anything less than a full blown revolution and/or world war. Nobody wants this and everyone would like to avoid this, but it just doesn’t look at all possible right now.
After long decades of enslavement, brain washing, tyranny, and terror, a good chunk of Americans is realizing that there’s no world in which this is acceptable or excusable.
In addition, there’s finally again a superpower to rival the USA.Whatever your feelings on the USSR or China - there can never be just one superpower, because we’ve seen what that leads to. I wish it was the European Union, but it looks like the USA was mostly successful in destroying all efforts for Europe to become truly great and powerful. At the very least China is currently more friendly than the USA has ever been. Let’s hope they keep this attitude even after America crumbles. That’s probably the most optimistic scenario I can think of.
How the fuck did they have the gall to write this
If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm
I’m very much not a lawyer, I’m not even from the US, but even I know that irreparable harm is harm which may not be cured by monetary compensation. THIS IS LITERALLY JUST MONEY GIVEN TO THE STATES. IF THE DECISION IS LATER OVERTURNED THE STATES CAN JUST GIVE THE MONEY BACK FROM THEIR BUDGETS. This is the dumbest fucking shit I’ve read for a while.
You know what is quintessential irreparable harm? Medical complications or death from starvation. Which I sincerely wish upon the fucking monsters who signed this decision, which is illegal even by the already crooked pro-capitalist amerikkkan laws.
Y’all will need to relieve those injustices of their duties by force at some point. It doesn’t seem like there’s any other way.
It’s even dumber than that. This was an order to use emergency funds set aside specifically for SNAP. Going before the Supreme Court and saying they don’t have the funding is admitting that they stole that shit.
Anyone not wondering where Trump got the money to fund ICE during the shutdown is a fool.
So, let me get this straight -
Either the Dems surrender health care for Americans,
or…
MAGA is going to starve us to death?
Imagine when American citizens, even children, start dying of STARVATION in America because the wealthiest government in the world, led by dozens of Psychopathic Oligarchs, DELIBERATELY engineered it so they could pay less taxes?
Yeah, that’s the government we want.
Maybe this will inspire some people to vote differently?
It could, if anybody on the Dem side had any idea how to market ideas to the people. If I were the DNC, I would put massive billboards all over every city in America that say:
MAGA wants you to SURRENDER YOUR HEALTH CARE, OR
The RICHEST will STARVE the POOREST,
To DEATH.
Don’t be a hostage. Resist.
But they won’t because it wouldn’t be polite to the PedoCons. And we all know how polite they are.
Vernichtung durch Arbeit has always been capitalism’s end goal
How many reasons do the Dems need before they start seriously talking about adding at least 4.seats to the Supreme Court? That’s the kind of bold promise that many people will vote for, especially if they are in interracial or gay marriages, because those won’t survive another MAGA administration.
And when we take our country back, we also need to impeach Clarence Thomas, and imprison both him and his treasonous bulldog wife.
It’s time to re-balance the Supreme Court.
Clarence Thomas for Guantanamo Bay 2026
“Our attorneys will not stop fighting, day and night, to defend and advance President Trump’s agenda,” said attorney general, Pam Bondi
Tells you everything you need to know. And they finally free enough to just come out and say it.
So they want to starve people.
I think they want people rioting in desperation so they can declare martial law.
That is a fact. They want an excuse to start deploying the military and I hope to God there’s enough officers in the military that has enough balls to support the Constitution and not the fucking dictator. They are trying to push a civil war
Maybe they will arrest the people issuing the illegal orders just after they give the illegal orders.
Maybe?
When you say they do you mean the military? The military has no arrest authority over civilians. The posse comitatus act specifically says that. When I was in the military we spent two days going over the posse comitatus act and what the military is allowed to do. That was part of my officer training. There is no legal recourse for the military to do anything. If civilian leaders give illegal orders the only thing the military can do is look at the civilian leader and say no that’s against the Constitution and we cannot do that. It was set up specifically like that to keep the military from trying to take over. Because you know a general could say hey civilian guy giving illegal orders we can arrest you or the general could say hey civilian in any situation we can arrest you and hold you indefinitely. The purging of the brass in the military and especially the upper echelon officers is really what is disturbing about this. The fact that there are military officers that are willing to go against the Constitution is even more deeply disturbing. I’m not really going to blame some 19-year-old recruit that just come out of basic because they don’t know any better but they’re NCOs and officer corps sure as fuck does. And that’s where the real problem lies. Just like Bannon recently that the Republicans better take over the institutions or we’re all going to jail in 2028 so he knows they know that all this shit is illegal but here we are
Indeed. The question will be how to keep the military, commandeered to kill their own countrymen, from following this illegal command.
Take the Texas national guard, tell them Portland has been overrun by Antifa, and send them in. That’s the trick. If you send the locals, they won’t do it. You have to get people who will listen to you and aren’t local, that way they don’t think they’re fighting their neighbors.
For example, at Tiananmen Square, they called up hundreds of thousands of troops from outside Beijing, not just for pure numbers, but because they would be less sympathetic to the students.
They already know this. That’s why Stephen Miller is doing this exact thing.
When the local national guard units are deployed for riot control, usually they do a relatively good job. In the 1992 LA riots, there were a couple thousand CA guardsmen (I can’t find a solid number) plus a couple thousand more other law enforcement, over 12,000 arrests, and 63 dead, of whom 9 were shot by police and only one by the national guard.
(Kent State is the notable exception.)
They probably all jack off watching the first 45 minutes of The Running Man
No. They want to steal from people. The abject cruelty left in the wake of that is just an added benefit.
Starvation is an economically efficient way to reduce the population, just like Israel or Russia have done, two of Trump’s best friends. Only the poor ones will die, so it works great.
They can always force the poors to have more children for slave labor
I’ve been saying this for weeks, they want people to riot… they are trying to manufacture a reason to enact martial law…
They don’t consider the ones starving “people”.
It really sucks for the people that didn’t vote for this, but for everyone who did or was too lazy to get out and vote… I will be taking great schadenfreude in listening to them complain.
If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds.
They are emergency funds. This is what they’re there for!
Losing a tiny amount of money from the federal budget is irreparable harm. But starvation? Just fine.
This Supreme Court is a joke. I just heard they’ve ruled with the fascists over 90% of the time.
An EMERGENCY? Poor people starving to death? That’s not an emergency, that’s an agenda.
They could defund ICE and have money to spare.
I think they mean it’s “harm” to not be allowed to starve people…
To their sense of control
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Soooo much winning everywhere!…
The argument made is saying that if they release funds, the states will spend the money, as intended, on the poorest citizens and there will be no way to recover the costs of feeding the poor. I might be being somewhat controversial here, but a smidgy little extra tax on billionaires?
I really don’t understand the argument at all. If we spend the money as intended we won’t get it back? The fuck did they expect?
They are, I think, correctly defined morons.
“If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.
“There is every reason to expect that if the shutdown lingers, the court below will not command the government to tap these funds again in December to support Snap – blowing a bigger hole in the budget for the child nutrition programs.”
This is absolute bullshit. Those funds have already been allocated by Congress in the 2023 Farm Bill. The money is already authorized for use for the next few years. They don’t need to “find it” somewhere else, or “get it back” at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.
The only reason these benefits would be held up for any reason during a government shut down, is if the staff in charge of distributing that money are not currently working. That’s what the $6 billion emergency fund is for. Paying the federal employees needed to make sure that money gets to its pre-authorized destination.
They don’t need to “find it” somewhere else, or “get it back” at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.
You’re assuming Trump hasn’t already appropriated those funds and handed them to ICE or his rich buddies. How the hell can he loot the government if courts are allowed to force him to spend money where Congress tells him to spend it?
If he has done that, then he’s broken federal law, and will be facing criminal charges and most likely jail time, once he’s out of office. That goes for anyone else who helped him, as well.
Hey! It’s obviously your first day on the Internet. Glad to have you here, welcome!
Now, before you comment further, I suggest you do a little study of American history over the last decade.
Then get back to us with your thoughts.
Donald Trump has a certain degree of immunity for official acts only. The people who work for him do not. The only thing protecting any of them right now, is the fact that he’s still in office. Once he’s out, everyone who committed crimes on his behalf, are all going to be charged.
And even he is open to prosecution for anything that can be proven to have been committed for purely personal gain (which is almost everything he does).
You may not remember this, but every single one of the lawyers who did his dirty work after the 2020 election, to try and flip the results…have all been found guilty of crimes and misdemeanors…and had their law licenses taken away. This shit does have consequences. Trump himself is just really good at gaming the system, thanks to the fact that he has so much money to burn on his own defense. But even that will only go so far.
Speaking of lawyers, I just read an article today about all the lawyers that have been fired from the DOJ, and how they are all forming law firms with various specialties going after MAGA crimes - immigration issues, fired federal workers, etc. By firing all those lawyers, he seeded the legal resistance that will give legal authority to the punishments of him and his henchmen.
Lol ok bud.
Wake the fuck up
I honestly can"t tell if you’re serious…
I am serious. They can just keep adding it to the list of charges that will be levelled against him, once he’s removed from office. Steve Bannon wasn’t joking when he said they will all be going to prison, when this is over.
He never did time for any of the crimes he committed last time he was in office. What reason is there to believe it’ll be different this time?
That was because they started investigating those cases a little late. But the cases against him would have warranted prison time, if they had gone to trial.
This time around, he’s doing even more illegal shit, and being super obviously about it. He doesn’t seem to understand that everything he’s doing is going to be used against him. His reckoning is coming.
Birds aren’t real
My theory is that they already spent/stole the money and it’s literally not there.
That would be misappropriation of federal funds, and it would mean that his entire administration is heading for prison, as soon as he’s out of office.
STOLE.
If the democrats win and don’t impeach these criminal Supreme Court justices …shit is going to hit the fan
The Supreme Court Problem should be a top priority in the 2026 Midterms. People are already tired of being pushed around by the Supreme Court, which is supposed to protect us from government overreach.
Interracial and Gay marriage are on the chopping block under MAGA, and who knows what else these psychopaths will think of? People are scared of how the Supreme Court is being manipulated.
Dems need to run on increasing seats on the the Supreme Court, and impeaching Clarence Thomas for his many, many crimes.
Add 4 seats, get rid of Thomas, and the Dems would have 8 seats, and MAGA would have 6. And if a MAGA seat opens up, Dems need to go to war to take that seat, McConnell style.
thomas and alito both, are obviously paid for. everyone else on the bench should have their entire lives upended in a very thorough fbi investigation, uncover and publicize any and all skeletons they have hidden in the closest then impeach as necessary.
Thomas is definitely a proven corrupt justice and a traitor, and his wife is also a proven traitor. Alito is an American hating traitor, but I don’t recall him doing anything that’s actually illegal, although I could easily be wrong. I hope I am, because if there’s some way to toss him in jail - for his CRIMES, not his politics - then I’m happy to be wrong.
They’ll retake control in the midterms and do fuck all as they always do. Watched this my whole fucking life.
Seriously. Not getting aggressive with Nixon directly lead to trump and this whole criminal administration. Sherman didn’t march far enough.
We really need more AOCs and the other three. And definitely more Mandami’s, but aggressive, in local positions.
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After a Boston appeals court declined to immediately intervene, Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson issued an order late Friday pausing the requirement to distribute full SNAP payments until the appeals court rules on whether to issue a more lasting pause. Jackson handles emergency matters from Massachusetts.
What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ? Fucking I give up on the whole lot of them “Justices” now.
What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ?
Here’s one analysis:
Jackson gets this application because it’s from the 1st circuit, and she is assigned to initially handle all shadow docket matters from the 1st circuit. By writing this admin stay, she potentially keeps the full court from stepping in and doing it for her. And this way she gets to set the 48 hour limit. This could cause the whole case to be decided one way or another a lot faster.
The supreme court let the trans passport case sit on the shadow “emergency” docket for 48 days. This stay gives the 1st circuit approx the weekend to make their decision, then the 48 hour deadline puts some oomph on the rest of scotus to make their decision.
If Justice Jackson did nothing, and 5 votes on the court intervened to issue a stay at 1 am, then there would be no 48 hour limit.
The gold is always in the comments. Have some Lemmy Gold.
God damn you bringing all this rational and logic to a discussion. ~~This is reddit dammit! ~~ I have been informed this is not ::: reddit :::.
Either way, damn you, I just want to be angry! No thinky! Angry!
Thank you so much for the breakdown.
Trying to start a riot to force Martial Law, at least from what I’ve heard.
She is one of the (few) good guys with power.
She is not working towards marshal law
So the argument is that “if we give people food, and then they eat that food, then we are harmed because we cannot make them give us back that food that they ate”?
Well… I suppose the public could give them back the food they ate, after they ate it… but it would be smelly…
I always said these people were dumb.
