In most areas in the USA you need to get a Rabies tag. You pay the county (or whatever) a fee and get a certificate and a tag to put on your dog collar. Both are numbered and can be used to get your information if your dog is picked up by animal control. They don’t always call it a license, but that’s basically what it is.
In europe we have subdermal microchip implants for that (the animal can’t lose it and doesn’t need to wear a collar). Also they aren’t mandatory but practically every pet that is allowed to go outside has one.
We have those too, but for a different/backup purpose. The tag is government issued and must be regularly renewed to show you’re keeping up on vaccines and shit. The subdermal microchip (if the animal has one) is used for lost animals if there isn’t a visible tag.
That’s a little high tech for governments in most areas of the USA. We pay the tax and get a stamped piece of metal (a literal dog-tag).
You can get your pet chipped here in the USA too, for a small fee, but that’s just to help you get them back if they get lost. In some regions it’s not worth it for that though. We used to live in Illinois and many pets were chipped in that area (outside of Chicago). All the vets and animal controls there had scanners and would check when an unidentified pet came in. We’ve since moved down south. Nobody has scanners here and many people have never even heard of them.
To raise children: No license needed. We need more of them anyways. Please pump out as many of them as you can!
The number of people who advocate for this seriously and unironically is astounding. How would anyone implement licencing or checks in a way that isn’t a basic human rights violation?
There’s no way to do that, I understand the desire though…
Unfortunately the good solutions are all non-authoritarian left-wing (free high quality education, accessible therapy, walkable mixed-zones cities so kids are safe on their own by design, free health- and daycare, good strong social security, high wages and strong job security, lower working hours etc. etc.), so literally the furthest thing away from the current political climate. Either because right-wingers hate it in general or because they’re so stuck in their phantasms they won’t identify the correct solution if it was standing right in front of them.
Like any licensing, it’d be implemented, monitored and enforced imperfectly. The doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t better than nothing though.
Many religions and cultures already tried it with concepts like marriage and bastardry. Personally i think they should improve on those systems and integrate them with modern technology, not abolish the concept.
What’s the process for licencing? How do you obtain one? Who sets standards and testing for who is ready to be a parent? What do you do with accidental pregnancy? Or undeclared pregnancy? What would enforcement look like? And how would it save the child from suffering for the mistakes of the parent? What do you do with people who break the rules repeatedly?
You talk of history. Have you seen what happened historically in places where they tried to put children into “a better environment and punish parents”?
Small community Lemmy, you’re one of those commenters that I feel like I kinda know (even though I totally don’t. But I seem to upvote you a lot, so you’re recognizable in a good way.) I just want to say, I think this is a really cool fact about you. It’s like you were born a badass.
The only things that could make it cooler would be if you were born with your middle fingers raised, or your first words were, “Fuck the system” (in any language.)
You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they’ll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.
Adopting a rescue dog has various home checks and interviews and welfare checks. Leaving hospital with a baby: “Do you have a car seat for them?”, “Yes…”, “You’re all good to go then!”, “…”
i get your point but wow i do not want to live in a world where the government can explicitly decide who can have kids and who can’t
What ? In what country ?
In most areas in the USA you need to get a Rabies tag. You pay the county (or whatever) a fee and get a certificate and a tag to put on your dog collar. Both are numbered and can be used to get your information if your dog is picked up by animal control. They don’t always call it a license, but that’s basically what it is.
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In europe we have subdermal microchip implants for that (the animal can’t lose it and doesn’t need to wear a collar). Also they aren’t mandatory but practically every pet that is allowed to go outside has one.
We have those too, but for a different/backup purpose. The tag is government issued and must be regularly renewed to show you’re keeping up on vaccines and shit. The subdermal microchip (if the animal has one) is used for lost animals if there isn’t a visible tag.
That’s a little high tech for governments in most areas of the USA. We pay the tax and get a stamped piece of metal (a literal dog-tag).
You can get your pet chipped here in the USA too, for a small fee, but that’s just to help you get them back if they get lost. In some regions it’s not worth it for that though. We used to live in Illinois and many pets were chipped in that area (outside of Chicago). All the vets and animal controls there had scanners and would check when an unidentified pet came in. We’ve since moved down south. Nobody has scanners here and many people have never even heard of them.
We “need” a rabies tag in the same way that you need a “TV” license in the UK except far less taken rate. Op is greatly exaggerating here.
Absolutely no enforcement except as secondary issues arise.
I have literally never heard of anyone volunteering that they have a dog, and they did buy the “mandatory” license.
The number of people who advocate for this seriously and unironically is astounding. How would anyone implement licencing or checks in a way that isn’t a basic human rights violation?
There’s no way to do that, I understand the desire though…
Unfortunately the good solutions are all non-authoritarian left-wing (free high quality education, accessible therapy, walkable mixed-zones cities so kids are safe on their own by design, free health- and daycare, good strong social security, high wages and strong job security, lower working hours etc. etc.), so literally the furthest thing away from the current political climate. Either because right-wingers hate it in general or because they’re so stuck in their phantasms they won’t identify the correct solution if it was standing right in front of them.
Like any licensing, it’d be implemented, monitored and enforced imperfectly. The doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t better than nothing though.
Many religions and cultures already tried it with concepts like marriage and bastardry. Personally i think they should improve on those systems and integrate them with modern technology, not abolish the concept.
What’s the process for licencing? How do you obtain one? Who sets standards and testing for who is ready to be a parent? What do you do with accidental pregnancy? Or undeclared pregnancy? What would enforcement look like? And how would it save the child from suffering for the mistakes of the parent? What do you do with people who break the rules repeatedly?
You talk of history. Have you seen what happened historically in places where they tried to put children into “a better environment and punish parents”?
same as a car.
Technically, my parents needed a permit from PRC government before they could give have children (has nothing to do with “whether you can parent or not” tho, its a birth control thing).
准生證 (baidu site via google translate)
Wikitionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/准生證#Chinese
But anyways, they violated the One Child Policy (it was in effect when I was born) so… here I am… my existence is technically “illegal” lol
Small community Lemmy, you’re one of those commenters that I feel like I kinda know (even though I totally don’t. But I seem to upvote you a lot, so you’re recognizable in a good way.) I just want to say, I think this is a really cool fact about you. It’s like you were born a badass.
The only things that could make it cooler would be if you were born with your middle fingers raised, or your first words were, “Fuck the system” (in any language.)
Ah, the wisdom of Keanu :)
Adopting a rescue dog has various home checks and interviews and welfare checks. Leaving hospital with a baby: “Do you have a car seat for them?”, “Yes…”, “You’re all good to go then!”, “…”
Adopting a human has the same checks…