• 4grams@awful.systems
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    21 hours ago

    not disagreeing but I’d rather the gop dies first. I’m no newsome fan but it would make OUR jobs so much easier to fight against his neoliberal shit takes than these all out fascist ones.

    The dems are awful, but Biden dropping out does at least show that with enough pressure, they will respond (or cave, I mean it’s in their nature). This administration only cares about themselves, they see the rest of us as their peasants.

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      19 hours ago

      I don’t think one can exist without the other. They depend on each other to maintain power.

      If there was a people’s party that actually forced the rich to make concessions, there wouldn’t be a contest.

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        19 hours ago

        I agree on all counts. I just think to get that party, we’ve got to get rid of the current ones. I’ve always been one to tackle the biggest challenge up front so my focus is still on the gop, but make no mistake, dems need to go too, at least the vast majority.

        Thankfully there are folks working from the inside otherwise NYC would have turned out different. Honestly, their weakness means it’s an easier one to take back. I don’t care if the party names remain, but the power structure inside them needs to be gone yesterday.

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          18 hours ago

          I would love for the republicans to be gone so it would feel “safe” voting 3rd party, but i genuinely think the two parties keep each other alive so people hold out hope that one of them might one day do something good for people, but they are just taking up space where the real political parties would otherwise live.

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            18 hours ago

            I agree, but in truth I don’t believe Americans will support a third party unless we make it the gentlest, easiest transition possible. IMHO ranked choice is the only way we could get true third party support. And, that’s just one more at that point, we’d need them both out.

            Sadly, most of this country is so disengaged from politics. It’s a team sport to most people, and let’s be honest, an expansion franchise without a fanbase will be next to impossible to successfully launch (my sportsball metaphors are weak).

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      20 hours ago

      No you don’t understand, you see putting Democrats in power - the one immediate useful thing we can do to stop obvious in-the-street-and-in-our-face fascism - is bad.

      I mean, AOC might be okay for a few minutes, but that’s about it.

      What are you, the bourgeoise!!?