I mean, fair enough, you understand your own tastes, I just personally am not generally turned off by cartoons.
But yes you bring up another good point re Western Animation, which is that much of it has also homogenized, more or less around the Family Guy art style.
I find that to be even worse frankly, but that probably has more to do with my visceral disdain for the entire show.
Out of curiosity, do you have a preferred art style in video games? Or like, a set of acceptable ones, and then a set of ‘nope’ styles?
I am of course also presuming you play a fair number of video games, which could also be incorrect.
Anyway, I totally understand what you mean in the sense of… some particular art styles are just so unappealing/off-putting, that whatever media it is that they are in, it would have to outperform a similar bit of media in a different style, in other aspects, to roughly be counted as equivalently enjoyable.
I guess we just have different sets or categories of those styles that are off-putting to each of us.
Funny you bring that up, as I avoided expounding too much.
It will sound terribly xenophobic, but I also avoid JRPGs and interactive novels for the most part. I played a few back in the nes/SNES era but found them all to be kind of copy/paste jobs. It could also be that I find turn based combat boring. I’m sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but I don’t really have the time.
I’m somewhat of a Luddite and enjoy low res pixel graphics, or hand drawn painterly stuff (think Disco Elysium).
I also mostly play puzzle/mystery oriented stuff. Old school style point and clicks, Myst-likes.
Honestly, I find the gameplay of older JRPGs generally insufferable as well.
Give me Chrono Trigger or at least Golden Sun, where we have a bit more complex and interesting actual game mechanics, as well as very very good plot lines, characters, soundtracks, etc.
But uh yeah, sounds like you are probably about 10 years older than me? And/or just … don’t really play too many games?
I dunno, thats the ‘vibe’ I’m getting, but hey I also think Disco is phenomenal.
I dunno uh, ever seen or played Windwaker?
That game was pretty controversial when it came out, for shifting Zelda into a very cartoony art style…
… but now its generally remembered as a very unique and basically timeless art style, that a lot of people sort of use as a foundation for their own styles, when trying to make a game.
Yeah, I’m an old bastard. I had a stretch from around 2000-2012 where I barely played anything aside from Counter Strike and Team Fortress.
Chrono Trigger was great, I’ll admit. As you said, great characters and engaging gameplay, not just tapping A and healing occasionally.
I played the first two gens of Pokemon when they came out, skipped a bunch and returned for Arceus and Scarlet. I’m sounding like more of a hypocrite with every sentence. Heh.
Maybe I’ll bite the bullet and try a Persona game or a Final Fantasy that was released this millennium.
DBZ was definitely a thing when I was a kid. I liked the character design, and the huge attacks were cool, but the way that they stretched out thin scripts with repetitive, pointless, easy to animate dialogue. I understand that they did this because they had to crank out an episode every week or so. I gave up on it the third time half the episode was a hero sweating in a rocky canyon with minutes of internal dialog with the only animation being eye twitches and the occasional camera shift.
I probably would have been more into it if I was a year or two younger. I also briefly got into Power Rangers the first season it aired, but aged out of it immediately. Like I said, I’m old.
I get the fandom for the various things I’ve nit-picked on, and don’t judge those that enjoy them.
In conclusion, Parasite Eve was rad as hell and should have had two sequels and a remaster.
I also completely agree that the way DBZ stretched out episodes was quite annoying, but…!
I would suggest you maybe look into something like Xenoverse 1 or 2, if you want to basically play through a kind of alt-history version of DBZ, with all of its uh, greatest hits, and much less filler.
I loved Power Rangers as a kid, and this is basically cementing that I was quite close with my guess that you’re about a decade older than me, haha!
And finally, yes, I also agree that Parasite Eve was a very interesting game that deserved more love, but at this point, I’d guess you’d say its roughly the video game equivalent of a cult classic.
I also feel that way about Bungie’s nearly entirely forgotten game ‘Oni’.
Its… essentially a better ‘You are Motoko Kusanagi from GitS’ game than the actual official GitS games, at least in terms of actual gameplay.
It was crazy when the change happened. I’ve moment I was stoked to find out who the Green Ranger was, then, suddenly, I gave zero shits for the rubber suit monsters that the leotard wearing heroes kind -of fought.
Maybe the whole Monster of the Week Aesthetic wore thin, alongside the terrible American acting.
What were we talking about? Oh yeah video games.
I would play the shit out of a Trigun video game , even if must of it was wandering around villages and interrogating people.
Huh!
I mean, fair enough, you understand your own tastes, I just personally am not generally turned off by cartoons.
But yes you bring up another good point re Western Animation, which is that much of it has also homogenized, more or less around the Family Guy art style.
I find that to be even worse frankly, but that probably has more to do with my visceral disdain for the entire show.
Out of curiosity, do you have a preferred art style in video games? Or like, a set of acceptable ones, and then a set of ‘nope’ styles?
I am of course also presuming you play a fair number of video games, which could also be incorrect.
Anyway, I totally understand what you mean in the sense of… some particular art styles are just so unappealing/off-putting, that whatever media it is that they are in, it would have to outperform a similar bit of media in a different style, in other aspects, to roughly be counted as equivalently enjoyable.
I guess we just have different sets or categories of those styles that are off-putting to each of us.
Funny you bring that up, as I avoided expounding too much.
It will sound terribly xenophobic, but I also avoid JRPGs and interactive novels for the most part. I played a few back in the nes/SNES era but found them all to be kind of copy/paste jobs. It could also be that I find turn based combat boring. I’m sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but I don’t really have the time.
I’m somewhat of a Luddite and enjoy low res pixel graphics, or hand drawn painterly stuff (think Disco Elysium).
I also mostly play puzzle/mystery oriented stuff. Old school style point and clicks, Myst-likes.
Honestly, I find the gameplay of older JRPGs generally insufferable as well.
Give me Chrono Trigger or at least Golden Sun, where we have a bit more complex and interesting actual game mechanics, as well as very very good plot lines, characters, soundtracks, etc.
But uh yeah, sounds like you are probably about 10 years older than me? And/or just … don’t really play too many games?
I dunno, thats the ‘vibe’ I’m getting, but hey I also think Disco is phenomenal.
I dunno uh, ever seen or played Windwaker?
That game was pretty controversial when it came out, for shifting Zelda into a very cartoony art style…
… but now its generally remembered as a very unique and basically timeless art style, that a lot of people sort of use as a foundation for their own styles, when trying to make a game.
Yeah, I’m an old bastard. I had a stretch from around 2000-2012 where I barely played anything aside from Counter Strike and Team Fortress.
Chrono Trigger was great, I’ll admit. As you said, great characters and engaging gameplay, not just tapping A and healing occasionally.
I played the first two gens of Pokemon when they came out, skipped a bunch and returned for Arceus and Scarlet. I’m sounding like more of a hypocrite with every sentence. Heh.
Maybe I’ll bite the bullet and try a Persona game or a Final Fantasy that was released this millennium.
Hey you know Chrono Trigger!
Ever heard of maybe… Dragon Ball (Z)?
Same artist, at least for the concept and promotional art, character portraits.
RIP Akira Toriyama.
DBZ was definitely a thing when I was a kid. I liked the character design, and the huge attacks were cool, but the way that they stretched out thin scripts with repetitive, pointless, easy to animate dialogue. I understand that they did this because they had to crank out an episode every week or so. I gave up on it the third time half the episode was a hero sweating in a rocky canyon with minutes of internal dialog with the only animation being eye twitches and the occasional camera shift.
I probably would have been more into it if I was a year or two younger. I also briefly got into Power Rangers the first season it aired, but aged out of it immediately. Like I said, I’m old.
I get the fandom for the various things I’ve nit-picked on, and don’t judge those that enjoy them.
In conclusion, Parasite Eve was rad as hell and should have had two sequels and a remaster.
I also completely agree that the way DBZ stretched out episodes was quite annoying, but…!
I would suggest you maybe look into something like Xenoverse 1 or 2, if you want to basically play through a kind of alt-history version of DBZ, with all of its uh, greatest hits, and much less filler.
I loved Power Rangers as a kid, and this is basically cementing that I was quite close with my guess that you’re about a decade older than me, haha!
And finally, yes, I also agree that Parasite Eve was a very interesting game that deserved more love, but at this point, I’d guess you’d say its roughly the video game equivalent of a cult classic.
I also feel that way about Bungie’s nearly entirely forgotten game ‘Oni’.
Its… essentially a better ‘You are Motoko Kusanagi from GitS’ game than the actual official GitS games, at least in terms of actual gameplay.
It was crazy when the change happened. I’ve moment I was stoked to find out who the Green Ranger was, then, suddenly, I gave zero shits for the rubber suit monsters that the leotard wearing heroes kind -of fought.
Maybe the whole Monster of the Week Aesthetic wore thin, alongside the terrible American acting.
What were we talking about? Oh yeah video games.
I would play the shit out of a Trigun video game , even if must of it was wandering around villages and interrogating people.
And you’d get a bonus for every target you spared. Why isn’t this a game? (Don’t say Undertale)