Happy to have first watched Enterprise more than ten years after its initial run.
Let me watch it objectively without too much influencing from outside…
I’m watching it for the first time, almost at the end of s3. Honestly it’s pretty decent. The Xindi stuff was on shaky ground for a while, but they recovered. It’s good, but I haven’t had any episodes stand out as particularly excellent or terrible
That’s it: Overall pretty solid.
E.g. definitely better first season than TNG.
Xindi was crap imho, but some really good stuff in season 4.
I was sad that they didn’t produce more after that.
I’m just gonna say it. When writing things, you should never fuck with time. There are very good shows that do a good job of it, without it becoming the answer to everything.
Star Trek is not one of those shows. (Dr. who, comes to mind.)
The time loop episode of TNG (Cause and Effect) is one of my favourite things I have ever watched. But that doesn’t affect the overall timeline so I don’t think it counts against your argument, which I agree with.
I wish I had watched it when it first came out. I was one of those who lsitened to others saying it wasn’t good. Since I was deployed I couldn’t watch it live so I never did watch it until about a decade later. Now it’s one of my top ten favorite trek series.
I largely agree with you here, with the exception of VOY.
Only Trek series I had to force myself through (even omitting an especially bad season almost completely - I think it was season 2…?).
Didn’t watch Discovery yet, though, and not sure if I should… ;-)
Happy to have first watched Enterprise more than ten years after its initial run.
Let me watch it objectively without too much influencing from outside…
I’m watching it for the first time, almost at the end of s3. Honestly it’s pretty decent. The Xindi stuff was on shaky ground for a while, but they recovered. It’s good, but I haven’t had any episodes stand out as particularly excellent or terrible
That’s it: Overall pretty solid.
E.g. definitely better first season than TNG.
Xindi was crap imho, but some really good stuff in season 4.
I was sad that they didn’t produce more after that.
That first season of tng showed us how functional data is I wouldn’t change it for the urge
The Xindi arc has value as a snapshot of american mindset post 9-11. Justifying torture as an answer to terrorist act in a Star Trek series was wild.
fucking hell. I thought the pegasus was bad. Then I saw Sisko bomb a planet , section 31 in DS9, and now this.
They might as well have thrown Rodenberry’s bust into a woodchipper.
I’m glad they covered it but disgusted they leaned into it.
Yes, heard that take before!
Probably the reason I hated it.
Just not what I am watching Star Trek for…
I’m just gonna say it. When writing things, you should never fuck with time. There are very good shows that do a good job of it, without it becoming the answer to everything.
Star Trek is not one of those shows. (Dr. who, comes to mind.)
Still over all enjoyed enterprise.
The time loop episode of TNG (Cause and Effect) is one of my favourite things I have ever watched. But that doesn’t affect the overall timeline so I don’t think it counts against your argument, which I agree with.
I swear, you can check the IMDb page for just about any sci-fi series, and there is about a 50% chance the top rated episode is a time loop episode.
In the case of Voyager, the top is s6e12 “Blink of an Eye” which involves a time-dilated planet. So, close enough.
that’s part of the problem with screwing around with all the timey-whimey stuff.
At the end of the day, it changes nothing. Like the year of hell arc in Voyager, with the krennim. the other species. all of that was just filler.
If the year of hell had been the entirety voyager it would have been the best star trek series ever
The one where they’re naked in the blue room or whatever
The one where the dog might die
I wish I had watched it when it first came out. I was one of those who lsitened to others saying it wasn’t good. Since I was deployed I couldn’t watch it live so I never did watch it until about a decade later. Now it’s one of my top ten favorite trek series.
I kid, it’s #4 behind VOY, DS9, and TNG
I largely agree with you here, with the exception of VOY.
Only Trek series I had to force myself through (even omitting an especially bad season almost completely - I think it was season 2…?).
Didn’t watch Discovery yet, though, and not sure if I should… ;-)