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minus-squarekuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up25arrow-down5·edit-29 hours agoNo, I just haven’t seen any evidence red light cameras are effective. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/red-light-cameras-may-not-make-streets-safer/ Also I don’t like everything being under camera surveillance, so I need a strong justification to be fine with more of it
minus-squaremerc@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up13arrow-down12·8 hours agoRed light cameras may not be effective at making streets safer. But, they’re nearly 100% effective at making people who run red lights pay fines. The first one would be amazing, but I’m happy to settle for the second one.
minus-squaredreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down4·6 hours agoYou sound like someone who can likes rich people getting away with just paying fines for being rich assholes
minus-squaremerc@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up1·12 minutes agoAnd you sound like someone who wants to be able to run red lights without consequences.
minus-squareurandom@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·5 hours agoThe problem is not the cameras then, but the fines. Should be proportional to net worth
minus-squaredreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·edit-23 hours agowe both know thatll never happen in america, and until then its a law for poors only, as designed. Its continued existence only affects poor people
minus-squareAceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down13·9 hours agoCameras specifically to catch people running red-lights will only take a photo when a car crosses a red light rather than run continuously. They’ll only have you “under surveillance” if and when you’re breaking the law by running a red light. So if you’re so worried about “surveillance” from those cameras, don’t run red-lights.
minus-squaredeathbird@mander.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up4·4 hours agoThere are other, newer cameras like those from Flock that run and check continuously. I prefer the old-school ones you’re talking about.
minus-squarekuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·2 hours agoYeah, the old ones are fine, but they’re just turning into mass surveillance tools now
No, I just haven’t seen any evidence red light cameras are effective.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/red-light-cameras-may-not-make-streets-safer/
Also I don’t like everything being under camera surveillance, so I need a strong justification to be fine with more of it
Red light cameras may not be effective at making streets safer. But, they’re nearly 100% effective at making people who run red lights pay fines. The first one would be amazing, but I’m happy to settle for the second one.
You sound like someone who can likes rich people getting away with just paying fines for being rich assholes
And you sound like someone who wants to be able to run red lights without consequences.
The problem is not the cameras then, but the fines. Should be proportional to net worth
we both know thatll never happen in america, and until then its a law for poors only, as designed. Its continued existence only affects poor people
Cameras specifically to catch people running red-lights will only take a photo when a car crosses a red light rather than run continuously.
They’ll only have you “under surveillance” if and when you’re breaking the law by running a red light.
So if you’re so worried about “surveillance” from those cameras, don’t run red-lights.
There are other, newer cameras like those from Flock that run and check continuously. I prefer the old-school ones you’re talking about.
Yeah, the old ones are fine, but they’re just turning into mass surveillance tools now