• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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      I think that’s a generally Christian-centric view (which describes anything non-Jesus as the devil). As far as Pagan witches are concerned they could get their power from any number of gods/goddesses, or even from nature herself.

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        "I don’t hold with paddlin’ with the occult,” said Granny firmly. “Once you start paddlin’ with the occult you start believing in spirits, and when you start believing in spirits you start believing in gods. And then you’re in trouble.”

        “But all them things exist,” said Nanny Ogg.

        “That’s no call to go around believing in them. It only encourages ‘em."

        Terry Pratchett knew how it works lol

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        This is new info to me, so not sure who else, but Paganism isn’t a single system. It’s anything the Christians were trying to erase in Europe. The wildly varying descriptions occur because it was just the negative terms applied to any other group. Going to church is a ritual. Consuming eucharist is a ritual. Priests are channels to their god. Hyms are chants. Prayers are incantations. All just negative terms applied to the out groups.

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        Yeah, I didn’t want to disempower women, or anything like that. I know that this was merely the christiannarrative of witches.

        Kind of interesting, though that the male-centric christian church had to invent a male figure which gives the witch her power.

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      When Ezekiel raises the dead, it’s a blessing from god. But when I do it…

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        If men stopped seeing women as prizes or things to conquer, they’d be able to appreciate just how impressive that is. And then to just call it a fling or a casual hookup. The devil is probably ancient and chill enough to know that sex can just be sex and power can just be power.