Also, if I had lived in the US, I would’ve actually had the chance to do school at my speed. Which was way faster than the other kid
Are you born rich? Because otherwise that’s a fantasy. We are not a meritocracy, no matter how hard we pretend. It doesn’t work that way
And I don’t even know where to start with the rest of this… I’m on my phone and can’t clip you point by point
But you think you’d make it big? Of course you fucking wouldn’t. No one does. That’s literally impossible. Even last one of our movie and music stars come from money. Every last one of them
Have you ever spoken to homeless people? I have. I make a point of doing it. I’ve slept alongside them, I’ve shared meals. Not through media, but through human connection. And they’ve both been insanely generous and tried to steal from me
Holy projection Batman, you haven’t seen what I’ve seen, not through media, but first-hand.
My job used to be driving them around and my mom’s a social worker, so yeah. I have. Believe it or not, there are homeless people in Finland despite us having less of them and us not letting them starve en-masse on the streets, but don’t shit yourself that Finns think like that. We got libertarians as well, thanks to all the libertarian BS Murica has pushed. I’ve got into a fight with a guy because he literally honestly genuinely meant that homelessness is a choice.
You prolly know how untrue that is?
Of course you fucking wouldn’t. No one does. That’s literally impossible.
Ah I see you’ve gone with the same “using ‘literally’ for emphasis instead of literally literally” tactic.
So there’s no rich people in the US? Approximately 7-8.5% of Americans are literally literally millionaires, but “no-one makes it big”.
And you stand by that statement, instead of admitting it’s grotesque exaggeration?
Is it easier to win big if you get a “small loan of a million dollars”? Ofc it fucking is. Same shit works here. The dipshits who didn’t understand jack shit in school but were born with gold spoons up their arses exist here just like in America.
There’s much more a roof against becoming rich through labour. That was my original point. Same shit work’s with schools. The reason I wasn’t allowed to skip a class is because I’m not allowed to make the rich kids parents feel bad for having a kid who isn’t as cognitively gifted. Can’t be that poor people succeed!
But yeah, I was actually born into the upper-middle class. We’re one of the more known families from my town. Very central during early and mid 1900’s but then my grandpa died in the 90’s and dad drank everything then died himself.
Mom and dad broke up because of it. I ended up having to change schools several times as mom moved around. You know how it’s a meme parents want their kids to go to a good school? Well I was literally in one of the best schools in Finland and one of the best students there. Mom didn’t give a second thought. Also I’m one of four siblings, so that divided her attention.
I moved away from my mom’s at 15. Wbu?
Most of your experiences are still through media, even when your most impactful ones were in-person. I don’t think I ever even implied otherwise. Reading comprehension my man. I know US has low literacy but still.
Just like we’re mine. And if you think Finland doesn’t have depraved drug abusers, I could write another 3 full comments showing how you’re wrong, but prolly easier for you to watch this trailer of a documentary Reindeerspotting — Pako Joulumaasta (Escape from Santaland) . And those kids are still very healthy when they’re filming. I’ve known people like that after they’ve come out of prison. One of my neighbours was a murderer. Then someone stole a half a k of meth from the basement cellar storage I also had a key to. And he knew it. And was methed up.
But even he isn’t the most depraved by miles.
Just because our druggies to hang out in the streets, you keep on insisting we don’t have any.
You’re literally just comparing and comparing, when I keep telling you you can’t, because don’t know anything about Finland. But I can compare them, because I know about Finland for living here, and I hear about the US because western media. You don’t hear about Finland. That’s just what the facts are.
Who the fuck has said anything about the US being a meritocracy? I haven’t said Finland is authoritarian either. I’ve said it’s more authoritarian than it has been. Comparatively.
Just like in comparison to Finland, US is more meritocratic than Finland, despite not being a meritocracy per se.
The requirements are academic preparation (testing ahead in all subjects), emotional maturity and motivation. I got 3/3. When other kids were learning their ABC’s, I was browsing thick tomes of dictionaries, giggling at the funny (and magical seeming) Latin names for things. I didn’t like being put into daycare even before going to school, and I was mature enough, so my mom (a trained social worker) left me alone in the house and came to check on me during lunch. I just sat and read. (Mostly comics, not always something to learn but for fun).
And for motivation? Well I had taught myself how to read. Answer I gave an independence day speech that was meant to be read by a sixth grader (the oldest class in lower basic education).
We don’t have skipping grades. If we did, I definitely would’ve been allowed to.
This is what I mean by you not understanding. You think you do, you want us to be on an equal footing. But we’re not.
Mä voin vaihtaa kieltä ja sun pitää ottaa AI käyttöö et pystyt edes ymmärtämää mua. Mut silti luulet jotenkin et mä ymmärrän yhtä vähän sun yhteiskunnasta kun sä mun.
Just not true. The US is in the spotlight, has been since WWII at least, and unfortunately while the audience can see the person in the spotlight, the person in the spotlight can’t see the dark audience from the bright lights. This is much like that. You think we’re just like a slightly different America. We’re not. There are things you don’t understand that you don’t understand, and I don’t know how to make you understand that.
So now you’re just pretending you weren’t wrong at all.
You have skipping grades as a concept and practice with rules and laws.
We don’t.
In the nicest way possible, I think you might have brain damage.
I do understand. Again, I’m very well versed in what it’s like in America. You’re still pretending as if most of your experiences aren’t relayed by types of media. And that I somehow don’t have access to this arcane knowledge about the US.
You could just as well be arguing that I just don’t speak English because it’s not the language I first learned. I haven’t lived in an English speaking country or ever even been in one for weeks, let alone years. Yet I’m completely fluent. Hell, the last time I checked, some 10-15 years ago, I had a larger vocabulary than 52% of native speakers.
Yet you childishly keep insisting there’s something I don’t understand.
“No no, you don’t get it. America has expensive drugs, you haven’t ever heard of how much we spend on drugs.”
“We have homeless people!”
Yes, you also have a military-industrial complex, you’re fucking over your veterans, your cops are murderers, there’s still tons of institutional racism, sexism, ableism, your leader is an ever-lying failure of a businessman who’s going senile and is owned by Putler, two thirds of your population are obese, literacy is like 79%, you have the largest prison population in the world despite not being even close to having the most people, roughly 1% of your adult population is in prison, which too often are for-profit prisons which are the only way America is clinging to any sort of cheap labour blabalablablabla blabla bla i could go on for days. What exactly don’t I understand? Your lack of empathy?
Honestly, depending on how old you are, I’ve could have been exposed to American news more than you, despite living in another country. That is if you’re like in your early twenties.
Do you remember where you were during 9/11? You never answered.
But you have no idea
It’s you who keeps having no idea, despite constantly been proved wrong.
Are you born rich? Because otherwise that’s a fantasy. We are not a meritocracy, no matter how hard we pretend. It doesn’t work that way
And I don’t even know where to start with the rest of this… I’m on my phone and can’t clip you point by point
But you think you’d make it big? Of course you fucking wouldn’t. No one does. That’s literally impossible. Even last one of our movie and music stars come from money. Every last one of them
Have you ever spoken to homeless people? I have. I make a point of doing it. I’ve slept alongside them, I’ve shared meals. Not through media, but through human connection. And they’ve both been insanely generous and tried to steal from me
Holy projection Batman, you haven’t seen what I’ve seen, not through media, but first-hand.
Have you ever spoken to homeless people?
My job used to be driving them around and my mom’s a social worker, so yeah. I have. Believe it or not, there are homeless people in Finland despite us having less of them and us not letting them starve en-masse on the streets, but don’t shit yourself that Finns think like that. We got libertarians as well, thanks to all the libertarian BS Murica has pushed. I’ve got into a fight with a guy because he literally honestly genuinely meant that homelessness is a choice.
You prolly know how untrue that is?
Ah I see you’ve gone with the same “using ‘literally’ for emphasis instead of literally literally” tactic.
So there’s no rich people in the US? Approximately 7-8.5% of Americans are literally literally millionaires, but “no-one makes it big”.
And you stand by that statement, instead of admitting it’s grotesque exaggeration?
Is it easier to win big if you get a “small loan of a million dollars”? Ofc it fucking is. Same shit works here. The dipshits who didn’t understand jack shit in school but were born with gold spoons up their arses exist here just like in America.
There’s much more a roof against becoming rich through labour. That was my original point. Same shit work’s with schools. The reason I wasn’t allowed to skip a class is because I’m not allowed to make the rich kids parents feel bad for having a kid who isn’t as cognitively gifted. Can’t be that poor people succeed!
But yeah, I was actually born into the upper-middle class. We’re one of the more known families from my town. Very central during early and mid 1900’s but then my grandpa died in the 90’s and dad drank everything then died himself.
Mom and dad broke up because of it. I ended up having to change schools several times as mom moved around. You know how it’s a meme parents want their kids to go to a good school? Well I was literally in one of the best schools in Finland and one of the best students there. Mom didn’t give a second thought. Also I’m one of four siblings, so that divided her attention.
I moved away from my mom’s at 15. Wbu?
Most of your experiences are still through media, even when your most impactful ones were in-person. I don’t think I ever even implied otherwise. Reading comprehension my man. I know US has low literacy but still.
Just like we’re mine. And if you think Finland doesn’t have depraved drug abusers, I could write another 3 full comments showing how you’re wrong, but prolly easier for you to watch this trailer of a documentary Reindeerspotting — Pako Joulumaasta (Escape from Santaland) . And those kids are still very healthy when they’re filming. I’ve known people like that after they’ve come out of prison. One of my neighbours was a murderer. Then someone stole a half a k of meth from the basement cellar storage I also had a key to. And he knew it. And was methed up.
But even he isn’t the most depraved by miles.
Just because our druggies to hang out in the streets, you keep on insisting we don’t have any.
You’re literally just comparing and comparing, when I keep telling you you can’t, because don’t know anything about Finland. But I can compare them, because I know about Finland for living here, and I hear about the US because western media. You don’t hear about Finland. That’s just what the facts are.
Who the fuck has said anything about the US being a meritocracy? I haven’t said Finland is authoritarian either. I’ve said it’s more authoritarian than it has been. Comparatively.
Just like in comparison to Finland, US is more meritocratic than Finland, despite not being a meritocracy per se.
You have a thing called whole grade acceleration or in plain English; “skipping a grade.”
The requirements are academic preparation (testing ahead in all subjects), emotional maturity and motivation. I got 3/3. When other kids were learning their ABC’s, I was browsing thick tomes of dictionaries, giggling at the funny (and magical seeming) Latin names for things. I didn’t like being put into daycare even before going to school, and I was mature enough, so my mom (a trained social worker) left me alone in the house and came to check on me during lunch. I just sat and read. (Mostly comics, not always something to learn but for fun).
And for motivation? Well I had taught myself how to read. Answer I gave an independence day speech that was meant to be read by a sixth grader (the oldest class in lower basic education).
We don’t have skipping grades. If we did, I definitely would’ve been allowed to.
This is what I mean by you not understanding. You think you do, you want us to be on an equal footing. But we’re not.
Mä voin vaihtaa kieltä ja sun pitää ottaa AI käyttöö et pystyt edes ymmärtämää mua. Mut silti luulet jotenkin et mä ymmärrän yhtä vähän sun yhteiskunnasta kun sä mun.
Just not true. The US is in the spotlight, has been since WWII at least, and unfortunately while the audience can see the person in the spotlight, the person in the spotlight can’t see the dark audience from the bright lights. This is much like that. You think we’re just like a slightly different America. We’re not. There are things you don’t understand that you don’t understand, and I don’t know how to make you understand that.
Perhaps Rumsfeld will have better luck;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_unknown_unknowns
I don’t know how to say this in a nicer way… You don’t understand the society you’ve never lived under, no one truly does
As far as outcomes and metrics, you live in a world I wished I lived in. I don’t think it’s perfect, I agree it’s full of problems
But you really don’t understand. Tens of millions are going to die over the next decade if we don’t have radical change.
I’m sorry you fell through the cracks. I really am. It’s not right. But you have no idea how much worse it could be
So now you’re just pretending you weren’t wrong at all.
You have skipping grades as a concept and practice with rules and laws.
We don’t.
In the nicest way possible, I think you might have brain damage.
I do understand. Again, I’m very well versed in what it’s like in America. You’re still pretending as if most of your experiences aren’t relayed by types of media. And that I somehow don’t have access to this arcane knowledge about the US.
You could just as well be arguing that I just don’t speak English because it’s not the language I first learned. I haven’t lived in an English speaking country or ever even been in one for weeks, let alone years. Yet I’m completely fluent. Hell, the last time I checked, some 10-15 years ago, I had a larger vocabulary than 52% of native speakers.
Yet you childishly keep insisting there’s something I don’t understand.
“No no, you don’t get it. America has expensive drugs, you haven’t ever heard of how much we spend on drugs.”
“We have homeless people!”
Yes, you also have a military-industrial complex, you’re fucking over your veterans, your cops are murderers, there’s still tons of institutional racism, sexism, ableism, your leader is an ever-lying failure of a businessman who’s going senile and is owned by Putler, two thirds of your population are obese, literacy is like 79%, you have the largest prison population in the world despite not being even close to having the most people, roughly 1% of your adult population is in prison, which too often are for-profit prisons which are the only way America is clinging to any sort of cheap labour blabalablablabla blabla bla i could go on for days. What exactly don’t I understand? Your lack of empathy?
Honestly, depending on how old you are, I’ve could have been exposed to American news more than you, despite living in another country. That is if you’re like in your early twenties.
Do you remember where you were during 9/11? You never answered.
It’s you who keeps having no idea, despite constantly been proved wrong.