US President Donald Trump signed the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law Thursday, completing the passage of the largest military spending bill in US history—$901 billion, or over $1 trillion when combined with supplemental funding passed earlier this year.

The Senate voted 77-20 on Wednesday to pass the bill. The Democratic leadership, including Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York and Minority Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois, voted for the bill. They were joined by Senators Mark Kelly of Arizona and Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, both of whom released a video last month calling on military personnel to disobey illegal orders—as Trump was sending the US military on a murder spree off the coast of Latin America.

Citing Trump’s statements about using troops to shoot protesters in America, Slotkin invoked the legacy of the Nuremberg tribunals, which convicted Nazi leaders for war crimes and crimes against peace. But when it came time to vote, this invocation was revealed to be completely meaningless. Slotkin voted to hand Trump the resources to pursue his military adventure against Venezuela…

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    No, that’s just silly, of course Democrats would hold the line and vote against such measures!

    Unless…

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    Where at my USA citizens, who will run for their life’s if a war starts, if, if. Instead of de-throning Trump.

    Just sit and watch…

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    The world under capitalism is so twisted that war is good for the economy. Let’s start using ecology as a measuring stick. That money thing is old and worn out and it shows us humans to be fools.

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    see, this is why we say voting won’t solve your problems. don’t hate the messenger.

    you could use rethinking instead of blaming russians or tankies or whatever.

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    They can’t give that to Trump. How is Elon Musk going to become the world’s first multi-trillionaire?

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      More war = less people = more food for the survivors. It’s simple maths {taps head }

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        So you think the DNC should have just let defence budget lapse until a better deal magically manifested?

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          Why not? Apparently that’s how MAGA thinks things should be handled. They should be happy to see Dems adopting the same strategy.

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            Why not? Because the world is at the precipice of WWIII due to the USA’s diplomacy going limp and heavy aggression from Russian and Chinese expansionism. Whatever tens of millions suffer because of Republican letting social safety nets falter is nothing compared to the amount of suffering caused if hostilities broke into US backed nations and states across the pacific.

            It’s one thing to say “we should spend less on military” or “the military should be able to pass audits”, but to say “defund the US military” is some clear Tankie propaganda shit of the highest order.

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          Yes, that would be the correct thing to do. The DOD isn’t going to go without money while legislators haggle over spending for the next fiscal year.

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            That is exactly what would happen. That’s how budgetary spending works. If congress doesn’t pass it, they don’t get the money.

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          So you think we shouldn’t try to rein in Trump starting another forever war?

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            The bill mentioned by the Chinese propaganda outlet above is the passing of the annual military budget. It increased by a very large amount this year because Republicans and fascists are running the show.

            It has NOTHING to do with Trump starting another forever war, any more than not signing it has to do with welcoming a Chinese invasion across the pacific. It explicitly only has to do with how much the USA is spending on its military specifically for 2026.

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              It increased by a very large amount this year because Republicans and fascists are running the show.

              OK…

              It has NOTHING to do with Trump starting another forever war

              Which would greatly benefit from increased defense spending. So it looks like, in fact, it has a lot to do with it.

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              Straight to the point, I think the main thing was giving soldiers a raise.

              Even a government shutdown doesn’t prevent trump from starting another war. He can do literally anything he wants, clearly including war crimes, with the military he already has.

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                War crimes and also just plain old third degree murder. He used to joke about walking down park ave and shooting somebody in the face, well I guess he proved it correct when he blew up boats full on unarmed civilians.

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    The sooner every American realizes that there is NO ONE in the government with the desire and the power to help us, the better.

    Edit: VOTE and be educated, but don’t expect anyone therein to be accountable and reponsible. Get ANGRY about that.

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      I think we should redesign the system so candidates are nominated, and anyone who has ever expressed a desire to hold office is instantly disqualified.

      Basically make it more like jury duty, except make it pay very well.

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      This is a dangerous narrative. Many people are not voting because this narrative the two sides are the same. They can do a lot in common but they are definitely not same. This year alone proves it.

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        I think the main point is “the desire and the power”. There are a few with desire, but without numbers they don’t have the power. The more people with desire we can get into seats, the more power they’ll have, collectively, to do something.

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        Right, not the same. One tells you they hate you, the other tells you they love you but fuck you over anyway and let the first get all the blame.

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        I simple don’t understand why anyone buys the sentiment that you are an expressing here. The unfortunate truth is that, in every substantive way, it is true that the two parties are in lock step. I am aware that Democrats will sometimes use rhetoric that implies that they have more enlightened positions in some issues. However, it’s not credible when they consistently cave, pre-compromise, and shift rightward at nearly every opportunity. I’ve been observing the party, from within and without for 40 years. I’ve come to the conclusion that as an organization, the party as currently organized, has NOT A SINGLE principled stand on any policies whatsoever. Let me be explicit: there is no issue on which Democrats organizationally are not willing to compromise or flip on including: abortion, civil rights, democracy, and so on. They are a loose conglomerate of self-interested corporate sell outs, period. Are there a few individual exceptions, of course. But as a collective, the party is trash, and they are the reason that fascism has been allowed to progress in this country for decades.

        What is needed is a wholesale reconstruction of that party. Replace nearly everyone in power and completely reject corporate funding. BTW, accomplishing that involves two things: 1.) voting, and 2.) rejecting the voices that demand that we lower our standards for short term political expediency.

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          They still do good things sometimes, they generally do fewer and less bad things. Definitely need to be entirely reformed, but practically that’s a future us problem.

          Priority one is dismantling the other party. Blue collar Americans love socialism when you don’t call it that. Start a “right wing” party that’s just leftism wrapped up in Jesus and 'Murica. Split the right, let the neo-libs stabilize things for a couple cycles while the 'Murica party siphons the working class from Republicans. Then, after the Republican party is dead, hard shift on the left from Democrat to 'Murica, massive mandate, start passing sweeping socialist reform.

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          Yea it seems like a lot people don’t want to face the fact that US politics are a theatre drama. And of course they also presume that you’re implying that means one shouldn’t vote, indeed a dangeous (and irritating) assumption. I believe one should vote based on a politicians actions and character, and try to notice when they’re bought and performing. The preponderance of evidence that anyone with any power is bought out is defeaning.

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            A 2014 Princeton study found that the US is not a democracy, and I remember thinking back then that it was already fairly obvious.

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          Bills like this come through when Republicans have power. It’s been more often than not lately because the DNC have had 48 or less Senators for over a decade.

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        Yes I understand and would not discourage voting. Its currently the only way to have any influence at all. Whole system needs to be turned over for anything to meaningfully change; vote as much as possible and get thoroughly educated, just don’t expect politicians to do anything helpful when they’re already owned by money.

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        If the political parties are scared a narrative is going to reduce turn out they should probably stop enforcing that narrative with their decision making. Neither party can vote against their constituents then claim they’re the good guys.

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          The whole point is that we know they are shitbags and money hungry whores, but they are undeniably better for your everyday life and wellbeing than Republicans, full stop.

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            Lesser of two evils turned into lesser of two genocides and soon it will be lesser of two fascists and that logic is exactly why were slow walking into it. Other countries look at the US like we’re insane for this type of shit. It doesn’t have to be this way, but if you keep voting for evil you’ll keep getting evil.

            Oh and the democrats you insist are better just helped the republicans pass a bill that legally invalidates intersex people, and the republicans could not have passed it at all without the dems help. There’s literally no issue they won’t compromise on if it’s politically expedient. Nothing.

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              There’s a time and a place for everything refraining from voting on election day is not a good time or place. You want to help get other parties in motion? Now’s the time. Abstaining your vote doesn’t do shit but help the least popular policies come to fruition every single time.

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                I didn’t abstain from voting so you’re welcome. I like how you have no argument against helping slow walk fascism to the US other than being patronizing and assuming I didn’t vote. The least you could do is not parrot decades of American lesser evil propaganda that has been the dominant voting culture while the US has been regressing, maybe take a critical long term look at that.

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                  Did you forget the thread you’re arguing on? This is about voting and not voting.

                  Get involved in other ways than this if you want real change, you being right isn’t going to accomplish that.

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          “Reinforcing the narrative” in this case is not letting the annual military budget lapse.

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      Mm, I’d be willing to bet that there are some who really are America first. It just so happens that includes waging war and extracting resources from places too weak or otherwise unable to defend themselves.

      The choice U.S. citizens are being given is clear. We can extract resources from you or we can extract resources from someone else. Resources will be extracted either way.

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        We can extract resources from you or we can extract resources from someone else. Resources will be extracted either way.

        They’re doing both.

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          Correct, the difference is which will happen first. Given the option, the American people will choose the latter. They just need to be coerced into it first.

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    The world socialist website parrots Chinese Communist Party propaganda only, they even support China’s aggression against Taiwan and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, among other things. This is not a reliable media source.

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        This is a propaganda site as they intentionally seek information supporting propaganda and information supporting propaganda only. They have a strong article selection bias, and they support China’s aggression against Taiwan and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, among other things. We must clearly say that this is not a reliable source.

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      You then certainly agree that essentially all western media, given its support of Israel’s genocide, is not reliable and shouldn’t be listened to? Or those standards are only to be applied to the evil leftists?

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        Calling the CCP leftists is amusing. They’re totalitarian state capitalists, Han nationalists and imperialists.

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          China doesn’t have colonies and hasn’t waged a war in 40 years, hilarious that you’d call them imperialistic likely coming from a western nation.

          Han nationalists is also very funny, I’m from Spain, a country where the police recently literally went and violently repressed a vote for independence from Catalonian people in a clear violation of the right to self determination. But sure, multiethnic China is totally Han nationalists. How many non-Han Chinese living in China have translated this opinion to you?

          Keep yapping western anti-China propaganda, useful CIA tool.

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        How about we meet in the middle: lets not listen to the nytimes about the middle east or trans people and not listen to Chinese government media about the US?

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      Funny opinion from someone who is obsessed with only posting stuff against China.

      I don’t know if the source is worthy reading, but this user sure is not.

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          Is he getting paid for that?

          It’s funny people down voting but even the “propaganda” website they mention have a lot of non China content, but this guy is 100% foaming against China as if nothing else exists in the world. If that’s not propaganda I don’t know what is.

          I’m not a fan of China, but there’s much worse evil in the world right now like the US and Israel before his brainwashing can work.

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            but there’s much worse evil in the world right now like the US and Israel before his brainwashing can work.

            That does not excuse left-wing propaganda though? Especially not of the imperialist kind

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            Don’t remember that I used this source, must be long time ago.

            But even so, that’s everything you complain? Is there nothing more?

            Would also be curious to learn what sources you deem reliable.

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              It’s not the reliability of the sources. It’s the obsession. Even the website you complain about have non Chinese content. But you are 100% constant anti China posts.

              China does a lot of bad stuff. Every country does. But why do you obsess with them so much?

              I would really like to know. Because with no explanation it either looks like you’re being paid by an enemy of China like the US or that something bad happened to you and you need to seek help because you got some deep trauma.

              I don’t think Lemmy is big enough for the US to pay someone to do propaganda. So it looks really odd.

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                What an absurdly weird comment. I just tried to engage in some discussion, but this doesn’t appear to lead anywhere.

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                  And the post here is factually reporting dems voting to increase the military budget.

                  Yet you’re critical of the reporting site here but okay when it’s one your posting.

                  Do you see the hypocrisy???

                  I don’t comment on your accusation.

                  Which is what happens every time it’s brought up so 🤷

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          Have you ever checked your post history? Did you ever even post anything that’s not about China? And was any of those posts against?

          China sucks, but if you are being honest you have some really twisted mind to not realise your obsession.

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        That’s how you know they know what is propaganda /s

        But yeah it’s hilarious having them complain about sources. They’d be fine with it if it had something bad to say about China

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          Two things can both be bad. And even more shockingly, one bad thing can be worse than another.

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            Liberals keep saying “two things can both be bad,” as if it were some brilliant gotcha when it’s nothing but a thought-terminating cliché. Please stop embarrassing yourselves. Either make an actual argument or don’t comment.

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    Choose your political flavor (must choose one or self righteous assholes online will blame society’s problems on you for not voting instead of the neoliberal billionaires who control the politicians)

    Republican: 🇺🇸✝️💣 Democrat: 🏳️‍🌈💅💣

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        I also dismiss people when I don’t like their tone

        A “socialist” using a fascist, capitalist tool. Fuck outta here tankie.

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          You may be surprised that the “tankies” over at lemmygrad and hexbear have been having a field day mocking the “socialist AI” for the past days, here’s an example post. The majority of “tankies” in the so-called “tankie triad” are Marxist-Leninists and not Trotskyists, the latter being the ideology best characterizing WSWS (org behind the “socialist AI”) to the best of my knowledge. So yeah, you’re late to the party of criticising this organization, the “tankies” that you so hate have got you covered on that front.

          However, “tankies” aren’t afraid of sources by their country of origin or ideology because we can do good analysis of the source and of the material in question, and if they bring something important to the table we can pick it up and agree with them.

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          I do personally dislike the wsws but there is nothing arguable about the headline here, it is publicly accessible information. I will question western sources when they make unsupported claims about geopoltical adversaries, as much as I’ll question state propaganda from another country when doing the same (such as Russia claiming genocide of Russians in Eastern Ukraine for example).

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            Your claim was, “So you dismiss the content just because you dislike the source?”, and my retort was that people in your camp, that is the ml instance and the other instances from the triad, also do the same because they disregard UN or Reuters sourced info on the basis of sumply being bourgeois.

            If you personally don’t do that, then the argument doesn5apply to you and you can ignore it

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              Hey, aren’t you the same person complaining about red herring on another comment thread? Instead of following your logic of answering with the Wikipedia list of logical fallacies, I’ll answer to your point:

              Tankies like me don’t generally refuse all information coming from UN or Reuters on the basis of being bourgeois. If Reuters reports on domestic events in western nations with evidence, that’s generally trustworthy. When it comes to geopolitical topics, the thing changes from “journalistic reporting of easily provable stuff” to “geopolitically charged claims without serious journalistic work”, and that’s when tankies like me are careful of western sources.

              If you believe otherwise, you can bring me some examples instead of generally referring to something tankies do that I don’t think we do

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                Wikipedia list of logical fallacies

                I think you should go look at that link again.

                and that’s when tankies like me are careful of western sources.

                Right, so only taking the points that they agree with you on.

                If you believe otherwise, you can bring me some examples instead of generally referring to something

                Here’s one:

                https://lemmy.world/comment/20878099

                Here’s another doing this when asked to cite the UN or Reuters as a neutral source:

                https://lemmy.world/comment/19851916

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                  The Wikipedia list of logical fallacies was a meme exaggeration. It’s a trope that edgy redditors will answer to serious comments by discarding their content according to one of the fallacies in the Wikipedia list. But sure, I’ll answer to you accordingly: fallacy fallacy. Even if my comment were a fallacy (which I disagree), that’s irrelevant because a logical fallacy can still be true. How about you answer to the content of the comment then, and not to a logical structure.

                  Regarding the other stuff about western sources and tankies, my claim was this:

                  If Reuters reports on domestic events in western nations with evidence, that’s generally trustworthy. When it comes to geopolitical topics, the thing changes from “journalistic reporting of easily provable stuff” to “geopolitically charged claims without serious journalistic work”, and that’s when tankies like me are careful of western sources

                  And you bring me one link about Venezuela and one link about DPRK, the former including links to western “Freedom Burger Eagle association” type organizations, not even to journalistic or UN claims. This seems to align very well with what I claimed.

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      1 day ago

      It’s literally the propaganda arm of a fringe political party. Like, the party runs it. Not just aligns with it to make money like Fox and conservatives.

      All of their articles are opinion pieces. But they are open to discussion with other viewpoints, so long as those viewpoints align closely with their own:

      The partisanship of the World Socialist Web Site by no means excludes objectivity or honest debate. We welcome a broad exchange of viewpoints with workers, students and intellectuals who are seeking an alternative to bourgeois politics and capitalist economics.