Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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    We’re an animal using the skills our species is born with. If making a fire and boiling water is unnatural, so is foxes digging holes, leaf cutter ants farming mold, and woodpeckers drilling into trees.

    You as a human are just as much of an animal as any of them and everything you evolved to do is natural. But at least you’re a self righteous asshole, so you’ve got that going for you I guess.

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      It was never stated or implied that boiling water is unnatural. You’re putting a notion in that was never there. Feel free to quote me where I said boiling water is unnatural.

      A self righteous asshole with better reading comprehension than you have apparently.

      So anyways, boiling a living creature —> alive <---- is not a ‘natural’ thing in human nature.

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          I’m not arguing that humans use boiling water to cook things. My argument is, and stands, that it not natural to take something living, and boil it alive.

          That is interesting research though, thanks for the link.

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        It was never stated or implied that boiling water is unnatural.

        Using boiling water to cook food is also natural.

        You’re putting a notion in that was never there.

        Pardon me going a little off topic, but I can’t get over how bad this sentence is.

        better reading comprehension

        Work on your writing next.

        boiling a living creature —> alive <---- is not a ‘natural’ thing in human nature.

        Is ‘natural’ in single quotes because you’re using your own personal definition of ‘natural’?

        Looking at every other carnivore on the planet, I’d say that empathizing with our food is less ‘natural’ than killing it painfully.

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          That response was everything I needed to read to understand exactly how smooth your brain is. Good luck

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            That’s fine, I’m still trying to figure out what you were trying to say with “putting a notion in”. Is that an idiom somewhere? Maybe somewhere that doesn’t speak English?

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              Maybe try using some AI software to ask it what it means, as reading comprehension is hard for you. Also, if you are going to paraphrase, you should do it correctly. Since you’re changing the topic of the conversation to one regarding writing. Weak deflection, but youre trying none the less.

              Smooooottthhh as ice.