• FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Honestly, I have a love-hate relationship with the ds9 defiant

    I love it because it stepped away fro Roddenberry’s rules for feddie ships. ( nacelles in even numbers, must have a saucer-section, nacelles must have LOS, etc.) I also love that it’s unapologetically a warship.

    I hate that the front end was kitbashed from the most useless of vacuum cleaner attachments.

    • marlowe221@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      I love DS9. I love the characters, the stories, and the station itself.

      But for me, the Defiant was just… OK

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        23 hours ago

        Loved the idea of it. The execution left something to be desired.

        Would have loved to see miles, Dax, and Worf pull something like the Delta flyer, only to become the Defiant, though.

        But really only as long as Miles gets to weaponize the transporter.

        (I wonder how many torps a cargo transporter could drop off just outside the hull. Imagine dumping entire holds of the things only to replicated them again. Especially doing so from cloak.)

        (I can hear the naysayers being like “but thebtorpedos wouldn’t have a starting velocity!”… ask how people get transported onto planets without going splat into the nearest vertical surface.)

        • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.websiteEnglish
          1·
          21 hours ago

          Honestly, the transporter is the main reason why I think the Federation could (possible by a landslide) win a war against the Empire from Star Wars; the Empire likely doesn’t have the defenses to stop a Starfleet vessel beaming photon torpedoes, neurocene gas, etcetera directly onto star destroyers. All it takes is a few ships getting past the tie fighters.

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            17 hours ago

            It would depend on if the deflector shields in Star Wars work to disrupt transportation or not. (Also on phasers.)

            Also the kind of effects ion weapons would have.

            Also the empire was never meant to actually be a competent military. Their vehicles are designed for terror, not practicality. Their pilots and infantry are all incompetent and mass produced.

            In short they were actually designed to fail.

            In any case, there’s too many assumptions that have to be made to put them in the same universe and that’s going to go which ever the way the judges want it to go.

            I just fantasize about Miles having several thousand torps just transport in a cloud and zip off to eagerly suicide into something - and Kira’s snark, or maybe just have her glare with a twitchy eyebrow.